Joe Dumars vs. Hal Greer Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Hal Greer and Joe Dumars, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Joe Dumars played 14 years in the NBA, 1 less than Hal Greer, who played 15. Joe Dumars had the first of his seasons in 1985-86, while Hal Greer had his rookie season in 1958-59. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Joe Dumars 14 10 1985-86 to 1998-99
Hal Greer 15 13 1958-59 to 1972-73

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1985-861958-59
Team Detroit PistonsSyracuse Nationals
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Rookie First Team-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdNationals Lost East Div Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 23.9 9.4 0.7 0.7 1.5 4.8 0.8 0.1 1.9 2.4 3.5 7.3 .481 0.1 0.2 .313 2.3 2.9 .798
Hal Greer 68 23.9 11.1 - - 2.9 1.5 - - - 2.8 4.5 10.0 .454 - - - 2.0 2.6 .778
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 4 36.8 15.0 1.5 1.8 3.3 6.3 1.0 0.0 1.8 4.0 6.3 10.3 .610 0.0 0.0 - 2.5 3.8 .667
Hal Greer 9 30.8 11.6 - - 5.2 2.2 - - - 3.9 4.3 10.3 .419 - - - 2.9 3.6 .813

Season 2

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1986-871959-60
Team Detroit PistonsSyracuse Nationals
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf FinalsNationals Lost East Div Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 79 30.9 11.8 0.6 1.5 2.1 4.5 1.1 0.1 2.2 2.5 4.7 9.5 .493 0.1 0.3 .409 2.3 3.1 .748
Hal Greer 70 28.3 13.2 - - 4.3 2.7 - - - 3.0 5.5 11.6 .476 - - - 2.1 2.7 .783
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 15 31.5 12.7 0.5 0.7 1.3 4.8 0.8 0.1 1.8 1.7 5.2 9.7 .538 0.1 0.2 .667 2.1 2.7 .780
Hal Greer 3 28.0 15.7 - - 4.7 3.3 - - - 1.7 7.3 14.3 .512 - - - 1.0 1.3 .750

Season 3

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1987-881960-61
Team Detroit PistonsSyracuse Nationals
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Pistons Lost NBA FinalsNationals Lost East Div Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 33.3 14.2 0.8 1.7 2.4 4.7 1.1 0.2 2.1 1.9 5.5 11.7 .472 0.0 0.2 .211 3.1 3.8 .815
Hal Greer 79 35.0 19.6 - - 5.8 3.8 - - - 3.1 7.9 17.5 .451 - - - 3.9 5.0 .774
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 23 35.0 12.3 0.8 1.4 2.2 4.9 0.6 0.1 1.7 2.2 4.9 10.7 .457 0.1 0.3 .333 2.4 2.7 .889
Hal Greer 8 29.0 14.4 - - 4.1 2.4 - - - 4.0 5.1 13.3 .387 - - - 4.1 5.0 .825

Season 4

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1988-891961-62
Team Detroit PistonsSyracuse Nationals
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
-Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionNationals Lost East Div Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 69 34.9 17.2 0.8 1.7 2.5 5.7 0.9 0.1 2.6 1.5 6.6 13.1 .505 0.2 0.4 .483 3.8 4.4 .850
Hal Greer 71 38.1 22.8 - - 7.4 4.4 - - - 3.5 9.1 20.3 .447 - - - 4.7 5.7 .819
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 17 36.5 17.6 0.6 1.9 2.6 5.6 0.7 0.1 1.8 1.8 6.2 13.7 .455 0.1 0.7 .083 5.1 5.9 .861
Hal Greer 1 5.0 0.0 - - 0 0.0 - - - 1.0 0.0 0.0 - - - - 0.0 0.0 -

Season 5

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1989-901962-63
Team Detroit PistonsSyracuse Nationals
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionNationals Lost East Div Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 75 34.4 17.8 0.8 2.0 2.8 4.9 0.8 0.0 1.9 1.7 6.8 14.1 .480 0.3 0.7 .400 4.0 4.4 .900
Hal Greer 80 32.9 19.5 - - 5.7 3.4 - - - 3.6 7.5 16.2 .464 - - - 4.5 5.4 .834
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 20 37.7 18.2 0.9 1.3 2.2 4.8 1.1 0.0 2.7 1.9 6.5 14.2 .458 0.3 1.0 .263 5.0 5.7 .876
Hal Greer 5 42.8 23.4 - - 5.4 4.2 - - - 4.2 8.8 17.4 .506 - - - 5.8 7.0 .829

Season 6

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1990-911963-64
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Defensive Second Team-
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf Finals76ers Lost East Div Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 80 38.1 20.4 0.8 1.6 2.3 5.5 1.1 0.1 2.4 1.7 7.8 16.2 .481 0.2 0.6 .311 4.6 5.2 .890
Hal Greer 80 39.5 23.3 - - 6.1 4.7 - - - 3.6 8.9 20.1 .444 - - - 5.4 6.6 .829
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 15 39.2 20.6 1.4 1.9 3.3 4.1 1.1 0.1 1.1 2.2 7.0 16.3 .429 1.1 2.8 .405 5.5 6.5 .845
Hal Greer 5 42.2 21.4 - - 5.6 6.0 - - - 3.8 7.4 19.0 .389 - - - 6.6 7.8 .846

Season 7

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1991-921964-65
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd76ers Lost East Div Finals
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 38.9 19.9 1.0 1.3 2.3 4.6 0.9 0.1 2.4 1.8 7.2 16.0 .448 0.6 1.5 .408 5.0 5.8 .867
Hal Greer 70 37.1 20.2 - - 5.1 4.5 - - - 3.6 7.7 17.8 .433 - - - 4.8 5.9 .811
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 44.2 16.8 1.0 0.6 1.6 3.2 1.0 0.2 1.4 2.2 6.4 13.6 .471 1.0 2.0 .500 3.0 3.8 .789
Hal Greer 11 45.9 24.6 - - 7.4 5.0 - - - 4.1 9.2 20.2 .455 - - - 6.3 7.9 .793

Season 8

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1992-931965-66
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second TeamAchievement All-NBA Second Team
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Did Not Play76ers Lost East Div Finals
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 77 40.2 23.5 0.8 1.1 1.9 4.0 1.0 0.1 1.8 1.8 8.8 18.9 .466 1.5 3.9 .375 4.5 5.2 .864
Hal Greer 80 41.6 22.7 - - 5.9 4.8 - - - 3.9 8.8 19.8 .445 - - - 5.2 6.4 .804
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Hal Greer 5 45.2 16.4 - - 7.2 4.2 - - - 4.2 6.4 18.2 .352 - - - 3.6 4.6 .783

Season 9

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1993-941966-67
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
-Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Did Not PlayNBA Champion NBA Champion
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 69 37.6 20.4 0.5 1.7 2.2 3.8 0.9 0.1 2.3 1.7 7.3 16.2 .452 1.8 4.6 .388 4.0 4.8 .836
Hal Greer 80 38.6 22.1 - - 5.3 3.8 - - - 3.8 8.7 19.1 .459 - - - 4.6 5.8 .788
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Hal Greer 15 45.9 27.7 - - 5.9 5.3 - - - 3.7 10.7 25.0 .429 - - - 6.3 7.9 .797

Season 10

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1994-951967-68
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
-Achievement All-Star Game NVP
Playoffs Did Not Play76ers Lost East Div Finals
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 67 38.0 18.1 0.7 1.7 2.4 5.5 1.1 0.1 3.3 2.3 6.2 14.5 .430 1.5 5.0 .305 4.1 5.1 .805
Hal Greer 82 39.8 24.1 - - 5.4 4.5 - - - 3.5 9.5 19.8 .478 - - - 5.1 6.7 .769
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Hal Greer 13 42.5 25.8 - - 6.1 4.2 - - - 3.8 9.2 21.4 .432 - - - 7.3 8.5 .856

Season 11

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1995-961968-69
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
-Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd76ers Lost East Div Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 67 32.7 11.8 0.4 1.6 2.1 4.0 0.6 0.0 1.4 1.6 3.8 8.9 .426 1.8 4.4 .406 2.4 2.9 .822
Hal Greer 82 40.4 23.1 - - 5.3 5.0 - - - 3.6 8.9 19.5 .459 - - - 5.3 6.6 .796
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 3 41.0 13.7 1.7 2.7 4.3 3.7 0.0 0.0 2.3 1.7 5.3 11.7 .457 1.7 4.7 .357 1.3 1.3 1.000
Hal Greer 5 40.8 16.0 - - 6.0 4.6 - - - 4.6 5.2 16.2 .321 - - - 5.6 7.2 .778

Season 12

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1996-971969-70
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd76ers Lost East Div Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 79 37.0 14.7 0.5 1.9 2.4 4.0 0.7 0.0 1.6 1.2 4.9 11.1 .440 2.1 4.9 .432 2.8 3.2 .867
Hal Greer 80 37.8 22.0 - - 4.7 5.1 - - - 3.8 8.8 19.4 .455 - - - 4.4 5.4 .815
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 42.6 13.8 0.4 1.4 1.8 2.0 1.0 0.0 1.2 1.8 4.4 12.2 .361 1.2 4.6 .261 3.8 4.0 .950
Hal Greer 5 35.6 15.4 - - 3.4 5.4 - - - 3.2 6.6 14.8 .446 - - - 2.2 2.6 .846

Season 13

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1997-981970-71
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play76ers Lost East Conf Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 72 32.3 13.1 0.2 1.3 1.4 3.5 0.6 0.0 1.2 1.4 4.6 11.0 .416 2.2 5.9 .371 1.8 2.1 .825
Hal Greer 81 37.8 18.6 - - 4.5 4.6 - - - 3.6 7.3 16.9 .431 - - - 4.0 5.0 .805
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Hal Greer 7 37.9 17.9 - - 3.6 4.7 - - - 5.0 7.0 16.0 .438 - - - 3.9 5.1 .750

Season 14

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season 1998-991971-72
Team Detroit PistonsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 38 29.4 11.3 0.3 1.5 1.8 3.5 0.6 0.1 1.4 1.3 3.8 9.2 .411 2.3 5.8 .403 1.3 1.6 .836
Hal Greer 81 29.8 11.8 - - 3.3 3.9 - - - 3.3 4.8 10.7 .449 - - - 2.2 2.9 .774
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 30.6 10.2 0.2 1.2 1.4 2.6 0.4 0.0 1.8 1.8 3.8 7.8 .487 2.0 3.8 .526 0.6 0.6 1.000
Hal Greer ------- --- ----------

Season 15

Joe Dumars Hal Greer
Season -1972-73
Team -Philadelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards
Playoffs -Did Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Hal Greer 38 22.3 5.6 - - 2.8 2.9 - - - 2.0 2.4 6.1 .392 - - - 0.8 1.0 .821
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Hal Greer ------- --- ----------