Joe Dumars vs. Dale Ellis Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Dale Ellis and Joe Dumars, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season / Games against each other

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Joe Dumars played 14 years in the NBA, 3 less than Dale Ellis, who played 17. Joe Dumars had the first of his seasons in 1985-86, while Dale Ellis had his rookie season in 1983-84. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Joe Dumars 14 10 1985-86 to 1998-99
Dale Ellis 17 10 1983-84 to 1999-00

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1985-861983-84
Team Detroit PistonsDallas Mavericks
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Rookie First Team-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdMavericks Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 23.9 9.4 0.7 0.7 1.5 4.8 0.8 0.1 1.9 2.4 3.5 7.3 .481 0.1 0.2 .313 2.3 2.9 .798
Dale Ellis 67 15.8 8.2 1.6 2.1 3.7 0.8 0.6 0.1 1.2 1.8 3.4 7.4 .456 0.2 0.4 .414 1.3 1.8 .719
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 4 36.8 15.0 1.5 1.8 3.3 6.3 1.0 0.0 1.8 4.0 6.3 10.3 .610 0.0 0.0 - 2.5 3.8 .667
Dale Ellis 8 22.3 7.4 2.4 2.9 5.3 0.5 1.3 0.3 0.6 2.1 3.3 10.0 .325 0.1 1.5 .083 0.8 1.0 .750

Season 2

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1986-871984-85
Team Detroit PistonsDallas Mavericks
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf FinalsMavericks Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 79 30.9 11.8 0.6 1.5 2.1 4.5 1.1 0.1 2.2 2.5 4.7 9.5 .493 0.1 0.3 .409 2.3 3.1 .748
Dale Ellis 72 18.3 9.3 1.4 1.9 3.3 0.8 0.6 0.1 0.8 1.8 3.8 8.4 .454 0.6 1.5 .385 1.1 1.4 .740
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 15 31.5 12.7 0.5 0.7 1.3 4.8 0.8 0.1 1.8 1.7 5.2 9.7 .538 0.1 0.2 .667 2.1 2.7 .780
Dale Ellis 4 17.0 5.8 1.0 0.8 1.8 0.8 1.0 0.0 1.0 0.8 2.5 5.8 .435 0.5 1.3 .400 0.3 0.5 .500

Season 3

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1987-881985-86
Team Detroit PistonsDallas Mavericks
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost NBA FinalsMavericks Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 33.3 14.2 0.8 1.7 2.4 4.7 1.1 0.2 2.1 1.9 5.5 11.7 .472 0.0 0.2 .211 3.1 3.8 .815
Dale Ellis 72 15.1 7.1 1.2 1.1 2.3 0.5 0.6 0.1 0.5 1.1 2.7 6.5 .411 0.9 2.4 .364 0.8 1.1 .720
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 23 35.0 12.3 0.8 1.4 2.2 4.9 0.6 0.1 1.7 2.2 4.9 10.7 .457 0.1 0.3 .333 2.4 2.7 .889
Dale Ellis 7 9.6 4.3 0.4 0.6 1.0 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.6 0.9 1.3 3.1 .409 1.0 1.7 .583 0.7 0.7 1.000

Season 4

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1988-891986-87
Team Detroit PistonsSeattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
-Achievement Most Improved Player
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionSupersonics Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 69 34.9 17.2 0.8 1.7 2.5 5.7 0.9 0.1 2.6 1.5 6.6 13.1 .505 0.2 0.4 .483 3.8 4.4 .850
Dale Ellis 82 37.5 24.9 2.3 3.2 5.5 2.9 1.3 0.4 2.9 3.3 9.6 18.5 .516 1.0 2.9 .358 4.7 6.0 .787
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 17 36.5 17.6 0.6 1.9 2.6 5.6 0.7 0.1 1.8 1.8 6.2 13.7 .455 0.1 0.7 .083 5.1 5.9 .861
Dale Ellis 14 37.9 25.2 2.6 3.8 6.4 2.6 0.7 0.4 2.4 3.9 10.6 21.7 .487 0.9 2.6 .361 3.1 3.9 .815

Season 5

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1989-901987-88
Team Detroit PistonsSeattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionSupersonics Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 75 34.4 17.8 0.8 2.0 2.8 4.9 0.8 0.0 1.9 1.7 6.8 14.1 .480 0.3 0.7 .400 4.0 4.4 .900
Dale Ellis 75 37.2 25.8 2.2 2.3 4.5 2.6 1.0 0.1 2.3 2.9 10.2 20.3 .503 1.4 3.5 .413 4.0 5.3 .767
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 20 37.7 18.2 0.9 1.3 2.2 4.8 1.1 0.0 2.7 1.9 6.5 14.2 .458 0.3 1.0 .263 5.0 5.7 .876
Dale Ellis 5 34.4 20.8 2.2 2.4 4.6 3.0 0.6 0.4 2.4 3.4 8.0 16.6 .482 0.6 2.4 .250 4.2 5.8 .724

Season 6

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1990-911988-89
Team Detroit PistonsSeattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third TeamAchievement All-NBA Third Team
Achievement All-Defensive Second Team-
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf FinalsSupersonics Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 80 38.1 20.4 0.8 1.6 2.3 5.5 1.1 0.1 2.4 1.7 7.8 16.2 .481 0.2 0.6 .311 4.6 5.2 .890
Dale Ellis 82 38.9 27.5 1.9 2.3 4.2 2.0 1.3 0.3 2.7 2.4 10.5 20.9 .501 2.0 4.1 .478 4.6 5.6 .816
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 15 39.2 20.6 1.4 1.9 3.3 4.1 1.1 0.1 1.1 2.2 7.0 16.3 .429 1.1 2.8 .405 5.5 6.5 .845
Dale Ellis 8 38.0 22.9 1.8 2.3 4.0 1.3 1.4 0.1 2.6 2.4 9.0 20.0 .450 1.9 4.6 .405 3.0 4.1 .727

Season 7

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1991-921989-90
Team Detroit PistonsSeattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 38.9 19.9 1.0 1.3 2.3 4.6 0.9 0.1 2.4 1.8 7.2 16.0 .448 0.6 1.5 .408 5.0 5.8 .867
Dale Ellis 55 37.0 23.5 1.6 2.7 4.3 2.0 1.1 0.1 2.2 2.3 9.1 18.4 .497 1.7 4.7 .375 3.5 4.3 .818
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 44.2 16.8 1.0 0.6 1.6 3.2 1.0 0.2 1.4 2.2 6.4 13.6 .471 1.0 2.0 .500 3.0 3.8 .789
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------

Season 8

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1992-931990-91
Team Detroit PistonsSeattle Supersonics, Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 77 40.2 23.5 0.8 1.1 1.9 4.0 1.0 0.1 1.8 1.8 8.8 18.9 .466 1.5 3.9 .375 4.5 5.2 .864
Dale Ellis 51 27.9 16.8 1.3 2.1 3.4 1.9 1.0 0.2 1.6 2.2 6.7 14.1 .474 1.1 3.1 .363 2.4 3.3 .723
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------

Season 9

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1993-941991-92
Team Detroit PistonsMilwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 69 37.6 20.4 0.5 1.7 2.2 3.8 0.9 0.1 2.3 1.7 7.3 16.2 .452 1.8 4.6 .388 4.0 4.8 .836
Dale Ellis 81 27.0 15.7 1.1 2.0 3.1 1.3 0.7 0.2 1.5 1.9 6.0 12.8 .469 1.7 4.1 .419 2.0 2.6 .774
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------

Season 10

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1994-951992-93
Team Detroit PistonsSan Antonio Spurs
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlaySpurs Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 67 38.0 18.1 0.7 1.7 2.4 5.5 1.1 0.1 3.3 2.3 6.2 14.5 .430 1.5 5.0 .305 4.1 5.1 .805
Dale Ellis 82 33.3 16.7 1.0 2.8 3.8 1.3 1.0 0.2 1.4 2.2 6.6 13.3 .499 1.5 3.6 .401 1.9 2.4 .797
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis 10 30.5 12.5 0.9 2.6 3.5 1.1 0.4 0.0 1.0 2.5 5.1 11.3 .451 1.0 3.2 .313 1.3 1.6 .813

Season 11

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1995-961993-94
Team Detroit PistonsSan Antonio Spurs
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdSpurs Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 67 32.7 11.8 0.4 1.6 2.1 4.0 0.6 0.0 1.4 1.6 3.8 8.9 .426 1.8 4.4 .406 2.4 2.9 .822
Dale Ellis 77 33.6 15.2 0.9 2.4 3.3 1.0 0.9 0.1 1.0 1.8 6.2 12.6 .494 1.7 4.3 .395 1.1 1.4 .776
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 3 41.0 13.7 1.7 2.7 4.3 3.7 0.0 0.0 2.3 1.7 5.3 11.7 .457 1.7 4.7 .357 1.3 1.3 1.000
Dale Ellis 4 28.5 10.5 0.8 1.8 2.5 0.3 0.8 0.0 1.0 1.5 4.3 10.8 .395 1.3 4.3 .294 0.8 1.3 .600

Season 12

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1996-971994-95
Team Detroit PistonsDenver Nuggets
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdNuggets Lost West Conf 1st Rd
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 79 37.0 14.7 0.5 1.9 2.4 4.0 0.7 0.0 1.6 1.2 4.9 11.1 .440 2.1 4.9 .432 2.8 3.2 .867
Dale Ellis 81 24.6 11.3 0.7 2.0 2.7 0.7 0.5 0.1 1.0 1.8 4.3 9.6 .453 1.3 3.2 .403 1.4 1.6 .866
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 42.6 13.8 0.4 1.4 1.8 2.0 1.0 0.0 1.2 1.8 4.4 12.2 .361 1.2 4.6 .261 3.8 4.0 .950
Dale Ellis 3 24.3 12.0 2.0 2.7 4.7 1.0 0.7 0.3 0.7 2.0 3.3 9.3 .357 1.3 4.3 .308 4.0 4.3 .923

Season 13

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1997-981995-96
Team Detroit PistonsDenver Nuggets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 72 32.3 13.1 0.2 1.3 1.4 3.5 0.6 0.0 1.2 1.4 4.6 11.0 .416 2.2 5.9 .371 1.8 2.1 .825
Dale Ellis 81 32.4 14.9 1.1 2.8 3.9 1.7 0.7 0.1 1.2 2.4 5.7 11.8 .479 1.9 4.5 .412 1.7 2.2 .760
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------

Season 14

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season 1998-991996-97
Team Detroit PistonsDenver Nuggets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 38 29.4 11.3 0.3 1.5 1.8 3.5 0.6 0.1 1.4 1.3 3.8 9.2 .411 2.3 5.8 .403 1.3 1.6 .836
Dale Ellis 82 35.9 16.6 1.2 2.4 3.6 2.0 0.7 0.1 1.8 2.2 5.8 14.0 .414 2.3 6.4 .364 2.6 3.2 .817
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 30.6 10.2 0.2 1.2 1.4 2.6 0.4 0.0 1.8 1.8 3.8 7.8 .487 2.0 3.8 .526 0.6 0.6 1.000
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------

Season 15

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season -1997-98
Team -Seattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards
Playoffs -Supersonics Lost West Conf Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis 79 24.5 11.8 0.6 1.7 2.3 1.1 0.8 0.1 0.9 1.6 4.4 8.9 .497 1.6 3.5 .464 1.4 1.8 .782
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis 10 17.2 5.6 0.4 0.9 1.3 0.6 0.2 0.0 0.2 1.0 2.0 5.3 .377 1.1 2.6 .423 0.5 0.6 .833

Season 16

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season -1998-99
Team -Seattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards
Playoffs -Did Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis 48 25.7 10.3 0.5 1.9 2.4 0.8 0.5 0.1 0.9 1.6 3.6 8.2 .441 2.0 4.5 .433 1.1 1.5 .757
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------

Season 17

Joe Dumars Dale Ellis
Season -1999-00
Team -Milwaukee Bucks, Charlotte Hornets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs -Did Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis 42 13.4 4.2 0.3 1.0 1.3 0.3 0.3 0.0 0.5 1.1 1.6 3.8 .415 0.9 2.4 .370 0.2 0.3 .692
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Dale Ellis ------- --- ----------