Joe Dumars vs. John Havlicek Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of John Havlicek and Joe Dumars, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Joe Dumars played 14 years in the NBA, 2 less than John Havlicek, who played 16. Joe Dumars had the first of his seasons in 1985-86, while John Havlicek had his rookie season in 1962-63. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achievements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Rookie Season
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1985-86	1962-63
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	All-Rookie First Team	All-Rookie First Team
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd	NBA Champion

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Rookie Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	82	23.9	9.4	0.7	0.7	1.5	4.8	0.8	0.1	1.9	2.4	3.5	7.3	.481	0.1	0.2	.313	2.3	2.9	.798
difference:	+2	+3.6	+4.9			+5.2	+2.6					+2.5	+6.3	+.036				+0.1	+0.1	+.070
John Havlicek	80	27.5	14.3	-	-	6.7	2.2	-	-	-	2.4	6.0	13.6	.445	-	-	-	2.2	3.0	.728
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	4	36.8	15.0	1.5	1.8	3.3	6.3	1.0	0.0	1.8	4.0	6.3	10.3	.610	0.0	0.0	-	2.5	3.8	.667
difference:	+7	+13.7	+3.2			+1.5	+4.8				-1.5	+1.2	+1.1	+.162				+0.9	+1.3
John Havlicek	11	23.1	11.8	-	-	4.8	1.5	-	-	-	2.5	5.1	11.4	.448	-	-	-	1.6	2.5	.667

Season 2
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1986-87	1963-64
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf Finals	NBA Champion

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2nd Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	79	30.9	11.8	0.6	1.5	2.1	4.5	1.1	0.1	2.2	2.5	4.7	9.5	.493	0.1	0.3	.409	2.3	3.1	.748
difference:	+1	+1.4	+8.1			+3.3	+1.5				-0.3	+3.3	+9.7	+.076				+1.6	+2.2	+.002
John Havlicek	80	32.3	19.9	-	-	5.4	3.0	-	-	-	2.8	8.0	19.2	.417	-	-	-	3.9	5.3	.746
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	15	31.5	12.7	0.5	0.7	1.3	4.8	0.8	0.1	1.8	1.7	5.2	9.7	.538	0.1	0.2	.667	2.1	2.7	.780
difference:	+5	+2.6	+3.0			+3.0	+1.6				-0.9	+0.9	+6.2	+.154				+1.4	+1.7	+.015
John Havlicek	10	28.9	15.7	-	-	4.3	3.2	-	-	-	2.6	6.1	15.9	.384	-	-	-	3.5	4.4	.795

Season 3
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1987-88	1964-65
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Pistons Lost NBA Finals	NBA Champion

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3rd Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	82	33.3	14.2	0.8	1.7	2.4	4.7	1.1	0.2	2.1	1.9	5.5	11.7	.472	0.0	0.2	.211	3.1	3.8	.815
difference:	+7	+4.4	+4.1			+2.5	+2.0				-0.8	+2.1	+7.2	+.071					+0.4	+.071
John Havlicek	75	28.9	18.3	-	-	4.9	2.7	-	-	-	2.7	7.6	18.9	.401	-	-	-	3.1	4.2	.744
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	23	35.0	12.3	0.8	1.4	2.2	4.9	0.6	0.1	1.7	2.2	4.9	10.7	.457	0.1	0.3	.333	2.4	2.7	.889
difference:	+11	+1.2	+6.2			+5.1	+2.5				-1.5	+2.4	+10.1	+.105				+1.4	+1.9	+.053
John Havlicek	12	33.8	18.5	-	-	7.3	2.4	-	-	-	3.7	7.3	20.8	.352	-	-	-	3.8	4.6	.836

Season 4
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1988-89	1965-66
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	Finals MVP	-
	-	All-NBA Second Team
	All-Defensive First Team	-
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	NBA Champion	NBA Champion

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4th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	69	34.9	17.2	0.8	1.7	2.5	5.7	0.9	0.1	2.6	1.5	6.6	13.1	.505	0.2	0.4	.483	3.8	4.4	.850
difference:	+2	+4.3	+1.6			+3.5	+2.7				-0.7	+0.9	+5.6	+.106				+0.1	+0.5	+.065
John Havlicek	71	30.6	18.8	-	-	6.0	3.0	-	-	-	2.2	7.5	18.7	.399	-	-	-	3.9	4.9	.785
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	17	36.5	17.6	0.6	1.9	2.6	5.6	0.7	0.1	1.8	1.8	6.2	13.7	.455	0.1	0.7	.083	5.1	5.9	.861
difference:		+5.8	+6.0			+6.5	+1.5				-2.3	+2.8	+8.3	+.046				+0.5	+0.7	+.020
John Havlicek	17	42.3	23.6	-	-	9.1	4.1	-	-	-	4.1	9.0	22.0	.409	-	-	-	5.6	6.6	.841

Season 5
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1989-90	1966-67
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Third Team	-
	All-Defensive First Team	-
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	NBA Champion	Celtics Lost East Div Finals

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5th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	75	34.4	17.8	0.8	2.0	2.8	4.9	0.8	0.0	1.9	1.7	6.8	14.1	.480	0.3	0.7	.400	4.0	4.4	.900
difference:	+6	+2.3	+3.6			+3.8	+1.5				-0.9	+1.6	+4.9	+.036				+0.5	+1.0	+.072
John Havlicek	81	32.1	21.4	-	-	6.6	3.4	-	-	-	2.6	8.4	19.0	.444	-	-	-	4.5	5.4	.828
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	20	37.7	18.2	0.9	1.3	2.2	4.8	1.1	0.0	2.7	1.9	6.5	14.2	.458	0.3	1.0	.263	5.0	5.7	.876
difference:	+11	+1.0	+9.2			+5.9	+1.7				-1.4	+4.1	+9.4	+.010				+1.3	+2.2	+.073
John Havlicek	9	36.7	27.4	-	-	8.1	3.1	-	-	-	3.3	10.6	23.6	.448	-	-	-	6.3	7.9	.803

Season 6
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1990-91	1967-68
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	All-NBA Third Team	-
	All-Defensive Second Team	-
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf Finals	NBA Champion

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6th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	80	38.1	20.4	0.8	1.6	2.3	5.5	1.1	0.1	2.4	1.7	7.8	16.2	.481	0.2	0.6	.311	4.6	5.2	.890
difference:	+2	+2.5	+0.3			+4.4	+0.8				-1.2	+0.3	+2.7	+.052				+0.1	+0.3	+.078
John Havlicek	82	35.6	20.7	-	-	6.7	4.7	-	-	-	2.9	8.1	18.9	.429	-	-	-	4.5	5.5	.812
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	15	39.2	20.6	1.4	1.9	3.3	4.1	1.1	0.1	1.1	2.2	7.0	16.3	.429	1.1	2.8	.405	5.5	6.5	.845
difference:	+4	+6.2	+5.3			+5.3	+3.4				-1.3	+2.7	+5.1	+.023				+1.1	+1.4	+.017
John Havlicek	19	45.4	25.9	-	-	8.6	7.5	-	-	-	3.5	9.7	21.4	.452	-	-	-	6.6	7.9	.828

Season 7
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1991-92	1968-69
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	All-Defensive First Team	-
	-	All-Defensive Second Team
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd	NBA Champion

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7th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	82	38.9	19.9	1.0	1.3	2.3	4.6	0.9	0.1	2.4	1.8	7.2	16.0	.448	0.6	1.5	.408	5.0	5.8	.867
difference:		+0.2	+1.7			+4.7	+0.8				-1.2	+1.2	+4.8	+.043				+0.3	+0.2	+.087
John Havlicek	82	38.7	21.6	-	-	7.0	5.4	-	-	-	3.0	8.4	20.8	.405	-	-	-	4.7	6.0	.780
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	5	44.2	16.8	1.0	0.6	1.6	3.2	1.0	0.2	1.4	2.2	6.4	13.6	.471	1.0	2.0	.500	3.0	3.8	.789
difference:	+13	+3.0	+8.6			+8.3	+2.4				-1.0	+3.0	+7.6	+.026				+3.6	+3.9	+.066
John Havlicek	18	47.2	25.4	-	-	9.9	5.6	-	-	-	3.2	9.4	21.2	.445	-	-	-	6.6	7.7	.855

Season 8
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1992-93	1969-70
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	All-NBA Second Team
	All-Defensive First Team	-
	-	All-Defensive Second Team
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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8th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	77	40.2	23.5	0.8	1.1	1.9	4.0	1.0	0.1	1.8	1.8	8.8	18.9	.466	1.5	3.9	.375	4.5	5.2	.864
difference:	+4	+1.4	+0.7			+5.9	+2.8				-0.8	+0.3	+0.7	+.002				+1.5	+1.9	+.020
John Havlicek	81	41.6	24.2	-	-	7.8	6.8	-	-	-	2.6	9.1	19.6	.464	-	-	-	6.0	7.1	.844
Playoffs Stats
* Neiher Joe Dumars nor John Havlicek played in the postseason in their season 8

Season 9
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1993-94	1970-71
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA First Team
	-	All-Defensive Second Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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9th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	69	37.6	20.4	0.5	1.7	2.2	3.8	0.9	0.1	2.3	1.7	7.3	16.2	.452	1.8	4.6	.388	4.0	4.8	.836
difference:	+12	+7.8	+8.5			+6.8	+3.7				-0.8	+3.7	+8.3	+.002				+2.8	+3.6	+.018
John Havlicek	81	45.4	28.9	-	-	9.0	7.5	-	-	-	2.5	11.0	24.5	.450	-	-	-	6.8	8.4	.818
Playoffs Stats
* Neiher Joe Dumars nor John Havlicek played in the postseason in their season 9

Season 10
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1994-95	1971-72
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA First Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Celtics Lost East Conf Finals

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10th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	67	38.0	18.1	0.7	1.7	2.4	5.5	1.1	0.1	3.3	2.3	6.2	14.5	.430	1.5	5.0	.305	4.1	5.1	.805
difference:	+15	+7.1	+9.4			+5.8	+2.0				-0.1	+4.7	+9.4	+.028				+1.5	+1.6	+.029
John Havlicek	82	45.1	27.5	-	-	8.2	7.5	-	-	-	2.2	10.9	23.9	.458	-	-	-	5.6	6.7	.834
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	DNP	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
John Havlicek	11	47.0	27.4	-	-	8.4	6.4	-	-	-	3.2	9.8	21.4	.460	-	-	-	7.7	9.0	.859

Season 11
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1995-96	1972-73
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA First Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd	Celtics Lost East Conf Finals

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11th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	67	32.7	11.8	0.4	1.6	2.1	4.0	0.6	0.0	1.4	1.6	3.8	8.9	.426	1.8	4.4	.406	2.4	2.9	.822
difference:	+13	+9.4	+12.0			+5.0	+2.6				-0.8	+5.8	+12.4	+.024				+2.2	+2.5	+.036
John Havlicek	80	42.1	23.8	-	-	7.1	6.6	-	-	-	2.4	9.6	21.3	.450	-	-	-	4.6	5.4	.858
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	3	41.0	13.7	1.7	2.7	4.3	3.7	0.0	0.0	2.3	1.7	5.3	11.7	.457	1.7	4.7	.357	1.3	1.3	1.000
difference:	+9	+1.1	+10.1			+0.9	+1.7				-0.3	+4.0	+7.9	+.020				+3.8	+4.9	+.176
John Havlicek	12	39.9	23.8	-	-	5.2	5.4	-	-	-	2.0	9.3	19.6	.477	-	-	-	5.1	6.2	.824

Season 12
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1996-97	1973-74
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	Finals MVP
	-	All-NBA First Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd	NBA Champion

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12th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	79	37.0	14.7	0.5	1.9	2.4	4.0	0.7	0.0	1.6	1.2	4.9	11.1	.440	2.1	4.9	.432	2.8	3.2	.867
difference:	+3	+3.7	+7.9	+1.3	+2.7	+4.0	+1.9	+0.6	+0.4		-1.4	+4.1	+8.7	+.016				+1.8	+2.3	+.035
John Havlicek	76	40.7	22.6	1.8	4.6	6.4	5.9	1.3	0.4	-	2.6	9.0	19.8	.456	-	-	-	4.6	5.5	.832
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	5	42.6	13.8	0.4	1.4	1.8	2.0	1.0	0.0	1.2	1.8	4.4	12.2	.361	1.2	4.6	.261	3.8	4.0	.950
difference:	+13	+2.5	+13.3	+1.2	+3.5	+4.6	+4.0	+0.3	+0.3		-0.6	+6.7	+10.6	+.123				+1.1	+1.6	+.069
John Havlicek	18	45.1	27.1	1.6	4.9	6.4	6.0	1.3	0.3	-	2.4	11.1	22.8	.484	-	-	-	4.9	5.6	.881

Season 13
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1997-98	1974-75
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Celtics Lost East Conf Finals

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13th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	72	32.3	13.1	0.2	1.3	1.4	3.5	0.6	0.0	1.2	1.4	4.6	11.0	.416	2.2	5.9	.371	1.8	2.1	.825
difference:	+10	+5.9	+6.1	+1.7	+2.7	+4.5	+1.8	+0.7	+0.2		-1.4	+3.2	+6.2	+.039				+1.7	+1.9	+.045
John Havlicek	82	38.2	19.2	1.9	4.0	5.9	5.3	1.3	0.2	-	2.8	7.8	17.2	.455	-	-	-	3.5	4.0	.870
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	DNP	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
John Havlicek	11	42.2	21.1	1.6	3.5	5.2	4.6	1.5	0.1	-	3.5	7.5	17.5	.432	-	-	-	6.0	6.9	.868

Season 14
	Joe Dumars	John Havlicek
Season	1998-99	1975-76
Team	Detroit Pistons	Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd	NBA Champion

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14th Season Stats Comparison
Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	38	29.4	11.3	0.3	1.5	1.8	3.5	0.6	0.1	1.4	1.3	3.8	9.2	.411	2.3	5.8	.403	1.3	1.6	.836
difference:	+38	+4.8	+5.7	+1.2	+1.1	+2.3	+0.2	+0.7	+0.3		-1.4	+2.8	+5.6	+.039				+2.4	+2.8	+.008
John Havlicek	76	34.2	17.0	1.5	2.6	4.1	3.7	1.3	0.4	-	2.7	6.6	14.8	.450	-	-	-	3.7	4.4	.844
Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Joe Dumars	5	30.6	10.2	0.2	1.2	1.4	2.6	0.4	0.0	1.8	1.8	3.8	7.8	.487	2.0	3.8	.526	0.6	0.6	1.000
difference:	+10	+3.1	+3.0	+1.0	+1.3	+2.3	+0.8	+0.4	+0.3		-0.3	+1.5	+4.2	+.043				+1.9	+2.5	+.191
John Havlicek	15	33.7	13.2	1.2	2.5	3.7	3.4	0.8	0.3	-	2.1	5.3	12.0	.444	-	-	-	2.5	3.1	.809

Additional Years
* John Havlicek played 2 seasons more than Joe Dumars in the NBA. In that period—his seasons 15 to 16, from 1977 to 1978—John Havlicek played in one postseason. In those 2 extra years over Joe Dumars, John Havlicek got these achievements:
Honors & Awards	2 All-Star Game