John Collins vs. Joe Dumars Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Joe Dumars and John Collins, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

John Collins played 7 years in the NBA, 7 less than Joe Dumars, who played 14. John Collins had the first of his seasons in 2017-18, while Joe Dumars had his rookie season in 1985-86. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers
Player	Total Seasons	Playoffs Played	NBA Years
John Collins	7	3	2017-18 to 2023-24
Joe Dumars	14	10	1985-86 to 1998-99

Comparison Season by Season
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Rookie Season
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2017-18	1985-86
Team	Atlanta Hawks	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Rookie First Team
Honors & Awards	All-Rookie Second Team	-
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	74	24.1	10.5	2.4	4.9	7.3	1.3	0.6	1.1	1.4	2.9	4.2	7.4	.576	0.2	0.6	.340	1.8	2.5	.715
Joe Dumars	82	23.9	9.4	0.7	0.7	1.5	4.8	0.8	0.1	1.9	2.4	3.5	7.3	.481	0.1	0.2	.313	2.3	2.9	.798

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	4	36.8	15.0	1.5	1.8	3.3	6.3	1.0	0.0	1.8	4.0	6.3	10.3	.610	0.0	0.0	-	2.5	3.8	.667


Season 2
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2018-19	1986-87
Team	Atlanta Hawks	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost East Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	61	30.0	19.5	3.6	6.2	9.8	2.0	0.4	0.6	2.0	3.3	7.6	13.6	.560	0.9	2.6	.348	3.3	4.4	.763
Joe Dumars	79	30.9	11.8	0.6	1.5	2.1	4.5	1.1	0.1	2.2	2.5	4.7	9.5	.493	0.1	0.3	.409	2.3	3.1	.748

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	15	31.5	12.7	0.5	0.7	1.3	4.8	0.8	0.1	1.8	1.7	5.2	9.7	.538	0.1	0.2	.667	2.1	2.7	.780


Season 3
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2019-20	1987-88
Team	Atlanta Hawks	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost NBA Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	41	33.2	21.6	2.8	7.3	10.1	1.5	0.8	1.6	1.8	3.4	8.6	14.8	.583	1.4	3.6	.401	2.9	3.7	.800
Joe Dumars	82	33.3	14.2	0.8	1.7	2.4	4.7	1.1	0.2	2.1	1.9	5.5	11.7	.472	0.0	0.2	.211	3.1	3.8	.815

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	23	35.0	12.3	0.8	1.4	2.2	4.9	0.6	0.1	1.7	2.2	4.9	10.7	.457	0.1	0.3	.333	2.4	2.7	.889


Season 4
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2020-21	1988-89
Team	Atlanta Hawks	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	Finals MVP
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive First Team
Playoffs	Hawks Lost East Conf Finals	NBA Champion

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	63	29.3	17.6	1.9	5.5	7.4	1.2	0.5	1.0	1.3	3.1	6.8	12.2	.556	1.3	3.3	.399	2.7	3.2	.833
Joe Dumars	69	34.9	17.2	0.8	1.7	2.5	5.7	0.9	0.1	2.6	1.5	6.6	13.1	.505	0.2	0.4	.483	3.8	4.4	.850

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	18	32.0	13.9	2.0	6.7	8.7	0.9	0.4	0.6	1.3	3.3	5.6	10.1	.549	1.1	3.1	.357	1.7	2.0	.833
Joe Dumars	17	36.5	17.6	0.6	1.9	2.6	5.6	0.7	0.1	1.8	1.8	6.2	13.7	.455	0.1	0.7	.083	5.1	5.9	.861


Season 5
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2021-22	1989-90
Team	Atlanta Hawks	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Third Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Hawks Lost East Conf 1st Rd	NBA Champion

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	54	30.8	16.2	1.7	6.1	7.8	1.8	0.6	1.0	1.1	3.0	6.3	11.9	.526	1.2	3.3	.364	2.5	3.1	.793
Joe Dumars	75	34.4	17.8	0.8	2.0	2.8	4.9	0.8	0.0	1.9	1.7	6.8	14.1	.480	0.3	0.7	.400	4.0	4.4	.900

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	5	24.4	9.4	0.4	4.2	4.6	1.2	0.4	0.2	1.0	2.4	3.8	7.8	.487	0.8	2.2	.364	1.0	2.0	.500
Joe Dumars	20	37.7	18.2	0.9	1.3	2.2	4.8	1.1	0.0	2.7	1.9	6.5	14.2	.458	0.3	1.0	.263	5.0	5.7	.876


Season 6
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2022-23	1990-91
Team	Atlanta Hawks	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Third Team
	-	All-Defensive Second Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Hawks Lost East Conf 1st Rd	Pistons Lost East Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	71	30.0	13.1	1.1	5.4	6.5	1.2	0.6	1.0	1.1	3.1	5.1	10.0	.508	1.0	3.4	.292	2.0	2.5	.803
Joe Dumars	80	38.1	20.4	0.8	1.6	2.3	5.5	1.1	0.1	2.4	1.7	7.8	16.2	.481	0.2	0.6	.311	4.6	5.2	.890

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	6	27.3	11.3	1.2	3.2	4.3	0.8	0.3	1.0	1.5	2.2	4.3	10.0	.433	1.8	5.3	.344	0.8	1.0	.833
Joe Dumars	15	39.2	20.6	1.4	1.9	3.3	4.1	1.1	0.1	1.1	2.2	7.0	16.3	.429	1.1	2.8	.405	5.5	6.5	.845


Season 7
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	2023-24	1991-92
Team	Utah Jazz	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive First Team
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	68	28.0	15.1	2.3	6.1	8.5	1.1	0.6	0.9	1.4	2.8	5.8	11.0	.532	1.3	3.4	.371	2.2	2.7	.795
Joe Dumars	82	38.9	19.9	1.0	1.3	2.3	4.6	0.9	0.1	2.4	1.8	7.2	16.0	.448	0.6	1.5	.408	5.0	5.8	.867

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	5	44.2	16.8	1.0	0.6	1.6	3.2	1.0	0.2	1.4	2.2	6.4	13.6	.471	1.0	2.0	.500	3.0	3.8	.789


Season 8
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1992-93
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	-	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	77	40.2	23.5	0.8	1.1	1.9	4.0	1.0	0.1	1.8	1.8	8.8	18.9	.466	1.5	3.9	.375	4.5	5.2	.864

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 9
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1993-94
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	-	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	69	37.6	20.4	0.5	1.7	2.2	3.8	0.9	0.1	2.3	1.7	7.3	16.2	.452	1.8	4.6	.388	4.0	4.8	.836

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 10
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1994-95
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	-	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	67	38.0	18.1	0.7	1.7	2.4	5.5	1.1	0.1	3.3	2.3	6.2	14.5	.430	1.5	5.0	.305	4.1	5.1	.805

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 11
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1995-96
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	-	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	67	32.7	11.8	0.4	1.6	2.1	4.0	0.6	0.0	1.4	1.6	3.8	8.9	.426	1.8	4.4	.406	2.4	2.9	.822

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	3	41.0	13.7	1.7	2.7	4.3	3.7	0.0	0.0	2.3	1.7	5.3	11.7	.457	1.7	4.7	.357	1.3	1.3	1.000


Season 12
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1996-97
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	-	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	79	37.0	14.7	0.5	1.9	2.4	4.0	0.7	0.0	1.6	1.2	4.9	11.1	.440	2.1	4.9	.432	2.8	3.2	.867

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	5	42.6	13.8	0.4	1.4	1.8	2.0	1.0	0.0	1.2	1.8	4.4	12.2	.361	1.2	4.6	.261	3.8	4.0	.950


Season 13
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1997-98
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	-	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	72	32.3	13.1	0.2	1.3	1.4	3.5	0.6	0.0	1.2	1.4	4.6	11.0	.416	2.2	5.9	.371	1.8	2.1	.825

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 14
	John Collins	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1998-99
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	-	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	38	29.4	11.3	0.3	1.5	1.8	3.5	0.6	0.1	1.4	1.3	3.8	9.2	.411	2.3	5.8	.403	1.3	1.6	.836

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
John Collins	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	5	30.6	10.2	0.2	1.2	1.4	2.6	0.4	0.0	1.8	1.8	3.8	7.8	.487	2.0	3.8	.526	0.6	0.6	1.000

John Collins vs. Joe Dumars Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Joe Dumars and John Collins, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Their Careers

Comparison Season by Season

Rookie Season

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Season 6

Season 7

Season 8

Season 9

Season 10

Season 11

Season 12

Season 13

Season 14