LeBron James vs. E'Twaun Moore Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of E'Twaun Moore and LeBron James, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season / Games against each other

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

LeBron James played 21 years in the NBA, 11 more than E'Twaun Moore, who played 10. LeBron James had the first of his seasons in 2003-04, while E'Twaun Moore had his rookie season in 2011-12. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
LeBron James 21 17 2003-04 to 2023-24
E'Twaun Moore 10 4 2011-12 to 2020-21

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2003-042011-12
Team Cleveland CavaliersBoston Celtics
Honors & Awards Achievement Rookie of the Year-
Achievement All-Rookie First Team-
Playoffs Did Not PlayCeltics Lost East Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 79 39.5 20.9 1.3 4.2 5.5 5.9 1.6 0.7 3.5 1.9 7.9 18.9 .417 0.8 2.7 .290 4.4 5.8 .754
E'Twaun Moore 38 8.7 2.9 0.1 0.8 0.9 0.9 0.3 0.1 0.6 0.9 1.1 3.0 .381 0.4 1.2 .378 0.2 0.2 1.000
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James ------- --- ----------
E'Twaun Moore 9 2.3 0.6 0.0 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.9 .250 0.0 0.2 .000 0.1 0.2 .500

Season 2

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2004-052012-13
Team Cleveland CavaliersOrlando Magic
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 80 42.4 27.2 1.4 6.0 7.4 7.2 2.2 0.7 3.3 1.8 9.9 21.1 .472 1.4 3.9 .351 6.0 8.0 .750
E'Twaun Moore 75 22.4 7.8 0.6 1.6 2.2 2.7 0.7 0.3 1.4 1.6 3.2 8.0 .396 0.9 2.6 .340 0.6 0.8 .797
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James ------- --- ----------
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 3

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2005-062013-14
Team Cleveland CavaliersOrlando Magic
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Achievement All-Star Game NVP-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost East Conf SemisDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 79 42.5 31.4 0.9 6.1 7.0 6.6 1.6 0.8 3.3 2.3 11.1 23.1 .480 1.6 4.8 .335 7.6 10.3 .738
E'Twaun Moore 79 19.1 6.3 0.4 1.4 1.7 1.4 0.8 0.2 0.7 1.3 2.5 5.8 .428 0.7 2.0 .354 0.7 0.9 .765
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 13 46.5 30.8 1.7 6.4 8.1 5.8 1.4 0.7 5.0 3.4 11.2 23.6 .476 1.6 4.8 .333 6.7 9.1 .737
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 4

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2006-072014-15
Team Cleveland CavaliersChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost NBA FinalsBulls Lost East Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 78 40.9 27.3 1.1 5.7 6.7 6.0 1.6 0.7 3.2 2.2 9.9 20.8 .476 1.3 4.0 .319 6.3 9.0 .698
E'Twaun Moore 56 9.0 2.7 0.2 0.6 0.8 0.6 0.4 0.1 0.3 0.8 1.1 2.5 .446 0.2 0.7 .342 0.2 0.4 .600
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 20 44.7 25.1 1.3 6.8 8.1 8.0 1.7 0.5 3.3 2.0 8.3 20.0 .416 1.1 3.8 .280 7.4 9.8 .755
E'Twaun Moore 3 3.0 1.7 0.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.3 0.7 2.0 .333 0.3 0.3 1.000 0.0 0.0 -

Season 5

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2007-082015-16
Team Cleveland CavaliersChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement Scoring Leader-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Achievement All-Star Game NVP-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost East Conf SemisDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 75 40.4 30.0 1.8 6.1 7.9 7.2 1.8 1.1 3.4 2.2 10.6 21.9 .484 1.5 4.8 .315 7.3 10.3 .712
E'Twaun Moore 59 21.4 7.5 0.3 1.9 2.3 1.7 0.6 0.3 0.9 1.7 3.2 6.6 .481 0.8 1.8 .452 0.4 0.6 .629
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 13 42.5 28.2 1.2 6.6 7.8 7.6 1.8 1.3 4.2 2.5 8.7 21.2 .411 1.4 5.4 .257 9.4 12.8 .731
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 6

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2008-092016-17
Team Cleveland CavaliersNew Orleans Pelicans
Honors & Awards Achievement Season MVP-
Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost East Conf FinalsDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 81 37.7 28.4 1.3 6.3 7.6 7.2 1.7 1.1 3.0 1.7 9.7 19.9 .489 1.6 4.7 .344 7.3 9.4 .780
E'Twaun Moore 73 24.9 9.6 0.5 1.6 2.1 2.2 0.7 0.4 0.8 1.8 3.9 8.5 .457 1.1 2.8 .370 0.8 1.0 .770
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 14 41.4 35.3 1.4 7.8 9.1 7.3 1.6 0.9 2.7 2.1 11.4 22.3 .510 1.9 5.8 .333 10.6 14.2 .749
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 7

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2009-102017-18
Team Cleveland CavaliersNew Orleans Pelicans
Honors & Awards Achievement Season MVP-
Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost East Conf SemisPelicans Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 76 39.0 29.7 0.9 6.4 7.3 8.6 1.6 1.0 3.4 1.6 10.1 20.1 .503 1.7 5.1 .333 7.8 10.2 .767
E'Twaun Moore 82 31.5 12.5 0.7 2.2 2.9 2.3 1.0 0.1 1.2 2.2 5.2 10.1 .508 1.6 3.7 .425 0.6 0.8 .706
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 11 41.8 29.1 1.4 7.9 9.3 7.6 1.7 1.8 3.8 2.1 9.6 19.2 .502 1.8 4.5 .400 8.0 10.9 .733
E'Twaun Moore 9 31.6 11.3 0.7 1.9 2.6 1.7 0.7 0.1 1.2 2.2 4.6 9.8 .466 1.0 2.8 .360 1.2 1.8 .688

Season 8

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2010-112018-19
Team Miami HeatNew Orleans Pelicans
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Heat Lost NBA FinalsDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 79 38.8 26.7 1.0 6.5 7.5 7.0 1.6 0.6 3.6 2.1 9.6 18.8 .510 1.2 3.5 .330 6.4 8.4 .759
E'Twaun Moore 53 27.6 11.9 0.7 1.7 2.4 1.9 0.8 0.2 1.1 2.1 4.8 10.0 .481 1.4 3.3 .432 0.8 1.1 .763
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 21 43.9 23.7 1.6 6.8 8.4 5.9 1.7 1.2 3.1 2.7 8.3 17.8 .466 1.4 4.0 .353 5.7 7.4 .763
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 9

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2011-122019-20
Team Miami HeatNew Orleans Pelicans
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement Season MVP-
Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 62 37.5 27.1 1.5 6.4 7.9 6.2 1.9 0.8 3.4 1.5 10.0 18.9 .531 0.9 2.4 .362 6.2 8.1 .771
E'Twaun Moore 56 18.2 8.3 0.6 1.8 2.3 1.4 0.6 0.2 0.7 1.4 3.3 7.8 .426 1.1 3.0 .377 0.6 0.8 .689
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 23 42.7 30.3 2.3 7.4 9.7 5.6 1.9 0.7 3.5 2.0 10.9 21.8 .500 1.0 3.7 .259 7.5 10.2 .739
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 10

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2012-132020-21
Team Miami HeatPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement Season MVP-
Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionSuns Lost NBA Finals
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 76 37.9 26.8 1.3 6.8 8.0 7.3 1.7 0.9 3.0 1.4 10.1 17.8 .565 1.4 3.3 .406 5.3 7.0 .753
E'Twaun Moore 27 14.4 4.9 0.5 1.1 1.7 1.5 0.6 0.2 0.9 1.2 2.0 4.5 .455 0.4 1.3 .314 0.4 0.5 .857
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 23 41.7 25.9 1.6 6.8 8.4 6.6 1.8 0.8 3.0 1.9 9.2 18.8 .491 1.6 4.2 .375 5.9 7.6 .777
E'Twaun Moore 7 6.6 2.4 0.0 1.4 1.4 1.3 0.1 0.0 0.4 0.4 1.1 2.6 .444 0.1 0.7 .200 0.0 0.0 -

Season 11

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2013-14-
Team Miami Heat-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Defensive Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Heat Lost NBA Finals-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 77 37.7 27.1 1.1 5.9 6.9 6.3 1.6 0.3 3.5 1.6 10.0 17.6 .567 1.5 4.0 .379 5.7 7.6 .750
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 20 38.2 27.4 0.7 6.4 7.1 4.8 1.8 0.6 3.1 2.3 9.6 17.0 .565 1.8 4.3 .407 6.5 8.0 .806
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 12

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2014-15-
Team Cleveland Cavaliers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost NBA Finals-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 69 36.1 25.3 0.7 5.3 6.0 7.4 1.6 0.7 3.9 2.0 9.0 18.5 .488 1.7 4.9 .354 5.4 7.7 .710
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 20 42.2 30.1 1.9 9.5 11.3 8.5 1.7 1.1 4.1 2.9 11.4 27.2 .417 1.3 5.5 .227 6.1 8.4 .731
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 13

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2015-16-
Team Cleveland Cavaliers-
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA Champion-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 76 35.6 25.3 1.5 6.0 7.4 6.8 1.4 0.6 3.3 1.9 9.7 18.6 .520 1.1 3.7 .309 4.7 6.5 .731
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 21 39.1 26.3 2.0 7.5 9.5 7.6 2.3 1.3 3.6 2.6 10.4 19.9 .525 1.5 4.5 .340 3.9 5.9 .661
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 14

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2016-17-
Team Cleveland Cavaliers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost NBA Finals-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 74 37.8 26.4 1.3 7.3 8.6 8.7 1.2 0.6 4.1 1.8 9.9 18.2 .548 1.7 4.6 .363 4.8 7.2 .674
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 18 41.3 32.8 1.1 8.1 9.1 7.8 1.9 1.3 4.0 2.4 12.1 21.3 .565 2.4 5.9 .411 6.3 9.0 .698
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 15

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2017-18-
Team Cleveland Cavaliers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Achievement All-Star Game NVP-
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost NBA Finals-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 82 36.9 27.5 1.2 7.5 8.6 9.1 1.4 0.9 4.2 1.7 10.5 19.3 .542 1.8 5.0 .367 4.7 6.5 .731
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 22 41.9 34.0 1.4 7.7 9.1 9.0 1.4 1.0 4.3 2.4 12.5 23.2 .539 1.8 5.2 .342 7.2 9.7 .746
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 16

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2018-19-
Team Los Angeles Lakers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 55 35.2 27.4 1.0 7.4 8.5 8.3 1.3 0.6 3.6 1.7 10.1 19.9 .510 2.0 5.9 .339 5.1 7.6 .665
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James ------- --- ----------
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 17

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2019-20-
Team Los Angeles Lakers-
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement All-NBA First Team-
Achievement Assists Leader-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA Champion-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 67 34.6 25.3 1.0 6.9 7.8 10.2 1.2 0.5 3.9 1.8 9.6 19.4 .493 2.2 6.3 .348 3.9 5.7 .693
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 21 36.3 27.6 1.3 9.4 10.8 8.8 1.2 0.9 4.0 1.9 10.2 18.2 .560 2.1 5.7 .370 5.1 7.1 .720
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 18

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2020-21-
Team Los Angeles Lakers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Lakers Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 45 33.4 25.0 0.6 7.0 7.7 7.8 1.1 0.6 3.7 1.6 9.4 18.3 .513 2.3 6.3 .365 4.0 5.7 .698
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 6 37.3 23.3 1.2 6.0 7.2 8.0 1.5 0.3 4.2 1.2 9.0 19.0 .474 3.0 8.0 .375 2.3 3.8 .609
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 19

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2021-22-
Team Los Angeles Lakers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 56 37.2 30.3 1.1 7.1 8.2 6.2 1.3 1.1 3.5 2.2 11.4 21.8 .524 2.9 8.0 .359 4.5 6.0 .756
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James ------- --- ----------
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 20

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2022-23-
Team Los Angeles Lakers-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Lakers Lost West Conf Finals-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 55 35.5 28.9 1.2 7.1 8.3 6.8 0.9 0.6 3.2 1.6 11.1 22.2 .500 2.2 6.9 .321 4.6 5.9 .768
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 16 38.7 24.5 1.6 8.3 9.9 6.5 1.1 1.1 2.5 1.8 9.2 18.4 .498 1.8 6.6 .264 4.4 5.8 .761
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------

Season 21

LeBron James E'Twaun Moore
Season 2023-24-
Team Los Angeles Lakers-
Honors & Awards Achievement Cup MVP-
Achievement Cup All-Tournament Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Lakers Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
Others NBA Cup In-Season Tournament Champion-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 71 35.3 25.7 0.9 6.4 7.3 8.3 1.3 0.5 3.5 1.1 9.6 17.9 .540 2.1 5.1 .410 4.3 5.7 .750
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
LeBron James 5 40.8 27.8 0.8 6.0 6.8 8.8 2.4 1.0 3.8 2.2 11.2 19.8 .566 2.0 5.2 .385 3.4 4.6 .739
E'Twaun Moore ------- --- ----------