Mel Counts vs. Joe Dumars Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Joe Dumars and Mel Counts, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Mel Counts played 12 years in the NBA, 2 less than Joe Dumars, who played 14. Mel Counts had the first of his seasons in 1964-65, while Joe Dumars had his rookie season in 1985-86. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers
Player	Total Seasons	Playoffs Played	NBA Years
Mel Counts	12	8	1964-65 to 1975-76
Joe Dumars	14	10	1985-86 to 1998-99

Comparison Season by Season
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Rookie Season
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1964-65	1985-86
Team	Boston Celtics	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Rookie First Team
Playoffs	NBA Champion	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	54	10.6	4.8	-	-	4.9	0.4	-	-	-	2.5	1.9	5.0	.368	-	-	-	1.1	1.4	.784
Joe Dumars	82	23.9	9.4	0.7	0.7	1.5	4.8	0.8	0.1	1.9	2.4	3.5	7.3	.481	0.1	0.2	.313	2.3	2.9	.798

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	4	7.5	2.3	-	-	2.8	0.3	-	-	-	2.5	1.0	3.8	.267	-	-	-	0.3	0.3	1.000
Joe Dumars	4	36.8	15.0	1.5	1.8	3.3	6.3	1.0	0.0	1.8	4.0	6.3	10.3	.610	0.0	0.0	-	2.5	3.8	.667


Season 2
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1965-66	1986-87
Team	Boston Celtics	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	NBA Champion	Pistons Lost East Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	67	15.2	8.4	-	-	6.4	0.7	-	-	-	3.1	3.3	8.2	.403	-	-	-	1.8	2.2	.828
Joe Dumars	79	30.9	11.8	0.6	1.5	2.1	4.5	1.1	0.1	2.2	2.5	4.7	9.5	.493	0.1	0.3	.409	2.3	3.1	.748

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	10	8.2	4.3	-	-	4.0	0.3	-	-	-	2.6	1.4	3.9	.359	-	-	-	1.5	1.7	.882
Joe Dumars	15	31.5	12.7	0.5	0.7	1.3	4.8	0.8	0.1	1.8	1.7	5.2	9.7	.538	0.1	0.2	.667	2.1	2.7	.780


Season 3
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1966-67	1987-88
Team	Baltimore Bullets, Los Angeles Lakers	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Lakers Lost West Div Semis	Pistons Lost NBA Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	56	15.4	7.6	-	-	6.1	0.9	-	-	-	3.3	3.2	7.5	.422	-	-	-	1.2	1.7	.734
Joe Dumars	82	33.3	14.2	0.8	1.7	2.4	4.7	1.1	0.2	2.1	1.9	5.5	11.7	.472	0.0	0.2	.211	3.1	3.8	.815

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	3	9.7	4.7	-	-	2.7	0.0	-	-	-	2.0	1.7	6.3	.263	-	-	-	1.3	1.3	1.000
Joe Dumars	23	35.0	12.3	0.8	1.4	2.2	4.9	0.6	0.1	1.7	2.2	4.9	10.7	.457	0.1	0.3	.333	2.4	2.7	.889


Season 4
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1967-68	1988-89
Team	Los Angeles Lakers	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	Finals MVP
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive First Team
Playoffs	Lakers Lost NBA Finals	NBA Champion

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	82	21.2	11.7	-	-	8.9	1.7	-	-	-	3.8	4.7	9.9	.475	-	-	-	2.3	3.1	.748
Joe Dumars	69	34.9	17.2	0.8	1.7	2.5	5.7	0.9	0.1	2.6	1.5	6.6	13.1	.505	0.2	0.4	.483	3.8	4.4	.850

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	15	20.4	8.6	-	-	8.9	1.6	-	-	-	3.5	3.6	6.7	.535	-	-	-	1.4	2.1	.677
Joe Dumars	17	36.5	17.6	0.6	1.9	2.6	5.6	0.7	0.1	1.8	1.8	6.2	13.7	.455	0.1	0.7	.083	5.1	5.9	.861


Season 5
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1968-69	1989-90
Team	Los Angeles Lakers	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Third Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Lakers Lost NBA Finals	NBA Champion

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	77	24.2	12.4	-	-	7.8	1.4	-	-	-	2.9	5.1	11.3	.450	-	-	-	2.3	2.9	.805
Joe Dumars	75	34.4	17.8	0.8	2.0	2.8	4.9	0.8	0.0	1.9	1.7	6.8	14.1	.480	0.3	0.7	.400	4.0	4.4	.900

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	18	24.6	11.2	-	-	7.9	1.4	-	-	-	3.7	4.1	10.7	.385	-	-	-	3.0	3.9	.761
Joe Dumars	20	37.7	18.2	0.9	1.3	2.2	4.8	1.1	0.0	2.7	1.9	6.5	14.2	.458	0.3	1.0	.263	5.0	5.7	.876


Season 6
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1969-70	1990-91
Team	Los Angeles Lakers	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Third Team
	-	All-Defensive Second Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Lakers Lost NBA Finals	Pistons Lost East Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	81	27.1	12.6	-	-	8.4	2.0	-	-	-	3.8	5.4	12.6	.427	-	-	-	1.9	2.5	.776
Joe Dumars	80	38.1	20.4	0.8	1.6	2.3	5.5	1.1	0.1	2.4	1.7	7.8	16.2	.481	0.2	0.6	.311	4.6	5.2	.890

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	14	15.1	6.1	-	-	5.3	1.1	-	-	-	3.4	2.6	6.3	.420	-	-	-	0.8	0.9	.846
Joe Dumars	15	39.2	20.6	1.4	1.9	3.3	4.1	1.1	0.1	1.1	2.2	7.0	16.3	.429	1.1	2.8	.405	5.5	6.5	.845


Season 7
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1970-71	1991-92
Team	Phoenix Suns	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive First Team
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	80	20.9	11.0	-	-	6.3	1.7	-	-	-	3.5	4.6	10.0	.457	-	-	-	1.9	2.5	.753
Joe Dumars	82	38.9	19.9	1.0	1.3	2.3	4.6	0.9	0.1	2.4	1.8	7.2	16.0	.448	0.6	1.5	.408	5.0	5.8	.867

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	5	44.2	16.8	1.0	0.6	1.6	3.2	1.0	0.2	1.4	2.2	6.4	13.6	.471	1.0	2.0	.500	3.0	3.8	.789


Season 8
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1971-72	1992-93
Team	Phoenix Suns	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	76	11.9	5.2	-	-	3.4	1.3	-	-	-	2.1	1.9	4.5	.427	-	-	-	1.3	1.8	.721
Joe Dumars	77	40.2	23.5	0.8	1.1	1.9	4.0	1.0	0.1	1.8	1.8	8.8	18.9	.466	1.5	3.9	.375	4.5	5.2	.864

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 9
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1972-73	1993-94
Team	Philadelphia 76ers, Los Angeles Lakers	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Lakers Lost NBA Finals	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	66	10.0	4.6	-	-	3.8	1.0	-	-	-	1.6	2.0	4.5	.449	-	-	-	0.6	0.9	.672
Joe Dumars	69	37.6	20.4	0.5	1.7	2.2	3.8	0.9	0.1	2.3	1.7	7.3	16.2	.452	1.8	4.6	.388	4.0	4.8	.836

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	17	19.2	9.1	-	-	6.1	1.6	-	-	-	3.0	3.6	7.8	.459	-	-	-	1.9	2.4	.780
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 10
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1973-74	1994-95
Team	Los Angeles Lakers	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Lakers Lost West Conf Semis	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	45	11.1	3.2	1.2	2.0	3.2	1.2	0.4	0.5	-	1.9	1.4	3.7	.365	-	-	-	0.5	0.7	.727
Joe Dumars	67	38.0	18.1	0.7	1.7	2.4	5.5	1.1	0.1	3.3	2.3	6.2	14.5	.430	1.5	5.0	.305	4.1	5.1	.805

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	4	8.5	3.0	0.5	1.0	1.5	0.5	0.5	0.5	-	0.8	1.5	3.0	.500	-	-	-	0.0	0.0	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 11
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1974-75	1995-96
Team	New Orleans Jazz	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	75	18.9	6.9	1.4	4.5	5.9	2.4	0.7	0.6	-	2.6	2.9	6.6	.438	-	-	-	1.1	1.5	.761
Joe Dumars	67	32.7	11.8	0.4	1.6	2.1	4.0	0.6	0.0	1.4	1.6	3.8	8.9	.426	1.8	4.4	.406	2.4	2.9	.822

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	3	41.0	13.7	1.7	2.7	4.3	3.7	0.0	0.0	2.3	1.7	5.3	11.7	.457	1.7	4.7	.357	1.3	1.3	1.000


Season 12
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	1975-76	1996-97
Team	New Orleans Jazz	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	30	10.6	3.0	0.9	2.4	3.3	1.3	0.5	0.3	-	2.5	1.2	3.0	.407	-	-	-	0.5	0.7	.762
Joe Dumars	79	37.0	14.7	0.5	1.9	2.4	4.0	0.7	0.0	1.6	1.2	4.9	11.1	.440	2.1	4.9	.432	2.8	3.2	.867

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	5	42.6	13.8	0.4	1.4	1.8	2.0	1.0	0.0	1.2	1.8	4.4	12.2	.361	1.2	4.6	.261	3.8	4.0	.950


Season 13
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1997-98
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	-	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	72	32.3	13.1	0.2	1.3	1.4	3.5	0.6	0.0	1.2	1.4	4.6	11.0	.416	2.2	5.9	.371	1.8	2.1	.825

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 14
	Mel Counts	Joe Dumars
Season	-	1998-99
Team	-	Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	-	Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	38	29.4	11.3	0.3	1.5	1.8	3.5	0.6	0.1	1.4	1.3	3.8	9.2	.411	2.3	5.8	.403	1.3	1.6	.836

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Mel Counts	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Joe Dumars	5	30.6	10.2	0.2	1.2	1.4	2.6	0.4	0.0	1.8	1.8	3.8	7.8	.487	2.0	3.8	.526	0.6	0.6	1.000

Mel Counts vs. Joe Dumars Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Joe Dumars and Mel Counts, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Their Careers

Comparison Season by Season

Rookie Season

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Season 6

Season 7

Season 8

Season 9

Season 10

Season 11

Season 12

Season 13

Season 14