Shawn Marion vs. Norm Van Lier Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Norm Van Lier and Shawn Marion, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Shawn Marion played 16 years in the NBA, 6 more than Norm Van Lier, who played 10. Shawn Marion had the first of his seasons in 1999-00, while Norm Van Lier had his rookie season in 1969-70. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Shawn Marion 16 11 1999-00 to 2014-15
Norm Van Lier 10 5 1969-70 to 1978-79

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 1999-001969-70
Team Phoenix SunsCincinnati Royals
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Rookie Second Team-
Playoffs Suns Lost West Conf SemisDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 51 24.7 10.2 2.1 4.5 6.5 1.4 0.7 1.0 1.0 2.2 4.4 9.2 .471 0.1 0.4 .182 1.4 1.7 .847
Norm Van Lier 81 35.7 9.5 - - 5.0 6.2 - - - 4.1 3.7 9.2 .403 - - - 2.0 2.8 .741
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 9 31.3 9.1 2.3 6.4 8.8 0.8 0.7 1.6 0.8 1.9 4.0 9.6 .419 0.1 0.7 .167 1.0 1.2 .818
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 2

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2000-011970-71
Team Phoenix SunsCincinnati Royals
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
-Achievement Assists Leader
Playoffs Suns Lost West Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 79 36.2 17.3 2.8 7.9 10.7 2.0 1.7 1.4 1.6 2.7 7.1 14.7 .480 0.3 1.0 .256 3.0 3.7 .810
Norm Van Lier 82 40.5 16.0 - - 7.1 10.1 - - - 4.2 5.8 13.9 .420 - - - 4.4 5.4 .816
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 4 34.8 14.8 2.5 5.8 8.3 0.8 1.5 1.5 1.5 3.3 5.8 15.5 .371 0.3 0.3 1.000 3.0 3.5 .857
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 3

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2001-021971-72
Team Phoenix SunsCincinnati Royals, Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Playoffs Did Not PlayBulls Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 81 38.4 19.1 2.6 7.3 9.9 2.0 1.8 1.1 1.8 2.6 8.1 17.2 .469 0.6 1.5 .393 2.4 2.8 .845
Norm Van Lier 79 30.6 11.5 - - 4.5 6.9 - - - 3.0 4.2 9.6 .439 - - - 3.0 3.8 .790
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier 4 36.0 14.0 - - 6.3 8.3 - - - 3.8 5.5 13.3 .415 - - - 3.0 3.5 .857

Season 4

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2002-031972-73
Team Phoenix SunsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Suns Lost West Conf 1st RdBulls Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 81 41.6 21.2 2.5 7.1 9.5 2.4 2.3 1.2 1.9 2.6 8.2 18.1 .452 1.7 4.5 .387 3.1 3.6 .851
Norm Van Lier 80 36.0 13.9 - - 5.5 7.1 - - - 3.4 5.9 13.3 .445 - - - 2.1 2.6 .787
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 6 47.2 18.5 3.5 8.2 11.7 2.0 1.8 1.8 2.2 2.8 6.7 17.8 .374 1.5 4.7 .321 3.7 4.3 .846
Norm Van Lier 7 36.9 14.4 - - 5.3 5.1 - - - 4.6 6.4 18.4 .349 - - - 1.6 2.1 .733

Season 5

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2003-041973-74
Team Phoenix SunsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-NBA Second Team
-Achievement All-Defensive First Team
-Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Did Not PlayBulls Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 79 40.7 19.0 2.7 6.6 9.3 2.7 2.1 1.3 2.0 2.6 7.5 17.0 .440 1.1 3.4 .340 2.9 3.4 .851
Norm Van Lier 80 35.8 14.3 1.4 3.3 4.7 6.9 2.0 0.1 - 3.5 5.3 13.1 .406 - - - 3.6 4.6 .778
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier 11 42.4 14.6 1.0 3.3 4.3 6.8 1.5 0.3 - 3.7 5.5 13.1 .424 - - - 3.5 4.3 .830

Season 6

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2004-051974-75
Team Phoenix SunsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
-Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Suns Lost West Conf FinalsBulls Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 81 38.8 19.4 2.9 8.4 11.3 1.9 2.0 1.5 1.5 2.5 7.6 15.9 .476 1.4 4.2 .334 2.8 3.4 .833
Norm Van Lier 70 37.0 15.0 1.2 3.5 4.7 5.8 2.0 0.2 - 3.5 5.8 13.9 .420 - - - 3.4 4.3 .792
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 15 42.3 17.6 3.1 8.7 11.8 1.5 1.4 1.7 1.4 3.1 7.2 14.9 .484 1.2 2.9 .419 2.0 2.6 .769
Norm Van Lier 13 42.1 15.1 1.4 3.8 5.2 4.7 1.5 0.4 - 4.0 5.2 12.6 .409 - - - 4.8 6.4 .747

Season 7

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2005-061975-76
Team Phoenix SunsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
-Achievement All-Defensive First Team
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Suns Lost West Conf FinalsDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 81 40.3 21.8 3.1 8.8 11.8 1.8 2.0 1.7 1.5 2.8 8.8 16.9 .525 1.2 3.6 .331 3.0 3.7 .809
Norm Van Lier 76 39.8 12.6 1.8 3.6 5.4 6.6 2.0 0.3 - 3.9 4.8 13.0 .366 - - - 3.1 4.2 .737
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 20 42.5 20.4 2.9 8.8 11.7 1.6 1.9 1.2 1.1 3.3 8.2 16.7 .489 1.1 3.5 .314 3.0 3.4 .881
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 8

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2006-071976-77
Team Phoenix SunsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive First Team
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Suns Lost West Conf SemisBulls Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 80 37.6 17.5 2.2 7.7 9.8 1.7 2.0 1.5 1.4 2.7 7.0 13.4 .524 1.0 3.2 .317 2.5 3.1 .810
Norm Van Lier 82 37.8 10.2 1.3 3.2 4.5 7.8 1.6 0.2 - 3.3 3.7 8.9 .412 - - - 2.9 3.7 .778
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 11 41.4 16.9 2.5 7.9 10.4 1.2 1.5 1.7 1.1 2.5 6.9 13.8 .500 1.1 3.1 .353 2.0 3.0 .667
Norm Van Lier 3 44.7 5.3 1.7 3.3 5.0 9.7 3.3 0.3 - 4.7 1.0 6.3 .158 - - - 3.3 4.0 .833

Season 9

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2007-081977-78
Team Phoenix Suns, Miami Heat, Phoenix Suns, Miami HeatChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 63 36.7 15.4 2.2 8.0 10.2 2.2 2.0 1.3 1.4 2.4 6.3 12.5 .508 1.0 3.1 .333 1.7 2.4 .707
Norm Van Lier 78 32.4 7.3 1.1 2.5 3.6 6.8 1.8 0.1 2.6 3.6 2.6 6.1 .419 - - - 2.2 2.9 .751
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 10

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2008-091978-79
Team Miami Heat, Toronto RaptorsMilwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 69 35.8 12.9 2.6 5.9 8.5 2.0 1.3 1.0 1.5 1.9 5.5 11.4 .485 0.1 0.8 .189 1.7 2.1 .796
Norm Van Lier 38 14.6 2.8 0.2 0.8 1.1 4.2 1.1 0.1 1.3 2.8 0.8 2.0 .390 - - - 1.2 1.4 .904
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 11

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2009-10-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 75 31.8 12.0 2.1 4.3 6.4 1.4 0.9 0.8 1.3 1.9 5.3 10.4 .508 0.0 0.3 .158 1.4 1.9 .755
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 6 24.7 8.7 1.2 3.0 4.2 1.0 0.2 0.5 1.3 2.0 4.0 9.8 .407 0.0 0.7 .000 0.7 0.8 .800
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 12

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2010-11-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA Champion-
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 80 28.2 12.5 2.1 4.8 6.9 1.4 0.9 0.6 1.6 1.8 5.4 10.4 .520 0.1 0.4 .152 1.6 2.1 .768
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 21 32.9 11.9 2.2 4.1 6.3 2.1 1.0 0.9 1.7 2.5 5.0 10.7 .467 0.0 0.2 .000 1.9 2.2 .851
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 13

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2011-12-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 63 30.5 10.6 2.3 5.1 7.4 2.1 1.1 0.6 1.6 1.4 4.6 10.3 .446 0.3 1.1 .294 1.2 1.5 .796
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 4 35.0 11.8 2.3 5.8 8.0 1.0 0.3 1.3 2.5 3.5 4.3 10.0 .425 1.0 3.5 .286 2.3 2.5 .900
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 14

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2012-13-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 67 30.0 12.1 2.2 5.7 7.8 2.4 1.1 0.7 1.5 1.7 5.3 10.3 .514 0.3 1.1 .315 1.2 1.5 .782
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 15

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2013-14-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 76 31.7 10.4 1.7 4.8 6.5 1.6 1.2 0.5 1.3 1.6 4.5 9.3 .482 0.8 2.1 .358 0.7 0.9 .785
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 7 27.6 8.4 2.0 3.3 5.3 1.9 0.9 0.1 0.7 1.6 3.4 8.4 .407 0.6 2.6 .222 1.0 1.6 .636
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 16

Shawn Marion Norm Van Lier
Season 2014-15-
Team Cleveland Cavaliers-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Cavaliers Lost NBA Finals-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 57 19.3 4.8 1.1 2.4 3.5 0.9 0.5 0.5 0.6 1.0 2.1 4.7 .446 0.2 0.8 .261 0.5 0.6 .765
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Shawn Marion 6 4.2 0.3 0.3 0.7 1.0 0.2 0.3 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.2 1.0 .167 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------