Tiny Archibald vs. Norm Van Lier Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Norm Van Lier and Tiny Archibald, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Tiny Archibald played 13 years in the NBA, 3 more than Norm Van Lier, who played 10. Tiny Archibald had the first of his seasons in 1970-71, while Norm Van Lier had his rookie season in 1969-70. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Tiny Archibald 13 5 1970-71 to 1983-84
Norm Van Lier 10 5 1969-70 to 1978-79

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1970-711969-70
Team Cincinnati RoyalsCincinnati Royals
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 82 35.0 16.0 - - 3.0 5.5 - - - 2.7 5.9 13.4 .444 - - - 4.1 5.4 .757
Norm Van Lier 81 35.7 9.5 - - 5.0 6.2 - - - 4.1 3.7 9.2 .403 - - - 2.0 2.8 .741
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 2

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1971-721970-71
Team Cincinnati RoyalsCincinnati Royals
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
-Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
-Achievement Assists Leader
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 76 43.1 28.2 - - 2.9 9.2 - - - 2.6 9.7 19.9 .486 - - - 8.9 10.8 .822
Norm Van Lier 82 40.5 16.0 - - 7.1 10.1 - - - 4.2 5.8 13.9 .420 - - - 4.4 5.4 .816
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 3

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1972-731971-72
Team Kansas City-Omaha KingsCincinnati Royals, Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
-Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Achievement Scoring Leader-
Achievement Assists Leader-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayBulls Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 80 46.0 34.0 - - 2.8 11.4 - - - 2.6 12.9 26.3 .488 - - - 8.3 9.8 .847
Norm Van Lier 79 30.6 11.5 - - 4.5 6.9 - - - 3.0 4.2 9.6 .439 - - - 3.0 3.8 .790
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier 4 36.0 14.0 - - 6.3 8.3 - - - 3.8 5.5 13.3 .415 - - - 3.0 3.5 .857

Season 4

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1973-741972-73
Team Kansas City-Omaha KingsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Playoffs Did Not PlayBulls Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 35 36.3 17.6 0.6 1.8 2.4 7.6 1.6 0.2 - 2.2 6.3 14.1 .451 - - - 4.9 6.0 .820
Norm Van Lier 80 36.0 13.9 - - 5.5 7.1 - - - 3.4 5.9 13.3 .445 - - - 2.1 2.6 .787
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier 7 36.9 14.4 - - 5.3 5.1 - - - 4.6 6.4 18.4 .349 - - - 1.6 2.1 .733

Season 5

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1974-751973-74
Team Kansas City-Omaha KingsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
-Achievement All-NBA Second Team
-Achievement All-Defensive First Team
Achievement All-Star GameAchievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Kings Lost West Conf SemisBulls Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 82 39.6 26.5 0.6 2.1 2.7 6.8 1.5 0.1 - 2.3 9.3 20.3 .456 - - - 8.0 9.1 .872
Norm Van Lier 80 35.8 14.3 1.4 3.3 4.7 6.9 2.0 0.1 - 3.5 5.3 13.1 .406 - - - 3.6 4.6 .778
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 6 40.3 20.2 0.3 1.5 1.8 5.3 0.7 0.0 - 3.0 7.2 19.7 .364 - - - 5.8 7.2 .814
Norm Van Lier 11 42.4 14.6 1.0 3.3 4.3 6.8 1.5 0.3 - 3.7 5.5 13.1 .424 - - - 3.5 4.3 .830

Season 6

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1975-761974-75
Team Kansas City KingsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA First Team-
-Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayBulls Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 78 40.8 24.8 0.9 1.9 2.7 7.9 1.6 0.2 - 2.2 9.2 20.3 .453 - - - 6.4 8.0 .802
Norm Van Lier 70 37.0 15.0 1.2 3.5 4.7 5.8 2.0 0.2 - 3.5 5.8 13.9 .420 - - - 3.4 4.3 .792
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier 13 42.1 15.1 1.4 3.8 5.2 4.7 1.5 0.4 - 4.0 5.2 12.6 .409 - - - 4.8 6.4 .747

Season 7

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1976-771975-76
Team New York NetsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive First Team
-Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 34 37.6 20.5 0.6 1.7 2.4 7.5 1.7 0.3 - 2.3 7.4 16.5 .446 - - - 5.8 7.4 .785
Norm Van Lier 76 39.8 12.6 1.8 3.6 5.4 6.6 2.0 0.3 - 3.9 4.8 13.0 .366 - - - 3.1 4.2 .737
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Note: Tiny Archibald didn't play in 1977-78.

Season 8

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1978-791976-77
Team Boston CelticsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive First Team
-Achievement All-Star Game
Playoffs Did Not PlayBulls Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 69 24.1 11.0 0.4 1.1 1.5 4.7 0.8 0.1 2.9 1.9 3.8 8.3 .452 - - - 3.5 4.4 .788
Norm Van Lier 82 37.8 10.2 1.3 3.2 4.5 7.8 1.6 0.2 - 3.3 3.7 8.9 .412 - - - 2.9 3.7 .778
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier 3 44.7 5.3 1.7 3.3 5.0 9.7 3.3 0.3 - 4.7 1.0 6.3 .158 - - - 3.3 4.0 .833

Season 9

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1979-801977-78
Team Boston CelticsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards -Achievement All-Defensive Second Team
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Celtics Lost East Conf FinalsDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 80 35.8 14.1 0.7 1.7 2.5 8.4 1.3 0.1 3.0 2.7 4.8 9.9 .482 0.1 0.2 .222 4.5 5.4 .830
Norm Van Lier 78 32.4 7.3 1.1 2.5 3.6 6.8 1.8 0.1 2.6 3.6 2.6 6.1 .419 - - - 2.2 2.9 .751
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 9 36.9 14.2 0.3 0.9 1.2 7.9 1.1 0.0 4.2 3.1 5.0 9.9 .506 0.1 0.2 .500 4.1 4.7 .881
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 10

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1980-811978-79
Team Boston CelticsMilwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Achievement All-Star Game NVP-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 80 35.3 13.8 0.5 1.8 2.2 7.7 0.9 0.2 3.3 2.5 4.8 9.6 .499 0.0 0.1 .000 4.3 5.2 .816
Norm Van Lier 38 14.6 2.8 0.2 0.8 1.1 4.2 1.1 0.1 1.3 2.8 0.8 2.0 .390 - - - 1.2 1.4 .904
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 17 37.1 15.6 0.4 1.3 1.6 6.3 0.8 0.0 2.9 2.3 5.6 12.4 .450 0.0 0.3 .000 4.5 5.5 .809
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 11

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1981-82-
Team Boston Celtics-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Celtics Lost East Conf Finals-
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 68 31.9 12.6 0.4 1.3 1.7 8.0 0.8 0.0 2.6 1.9 4.5 9.6 .472 0.1 0.2 .375 3.5 4.6 .747
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 8 34.6 10.6 0.1 2.0 2.1 6.5 0.6 0.3 2.9 2.6 3.8 8.8 .429 0.0 0.5 .000 3.1 3.5 .893
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 12

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1982-83-
Team Boston Celtics-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Celtics Lost East Conf Semis-
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 66 27.4 10.5 0.4 1.0 1.4 6.2 0.6 0.1 2.5 1.7 3.6 8.4 .425 0.1 0.4 .208 3.3 4.5 .743
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 7 23.0 9.6 0.4 1.0 1.4 6.3 0.3 0.0 1.6 1.7 3.1 9.7 .324 0.1 0.9 .167 3.1 4.1 .759
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------

Season 13

Tiny Archibald Norm Van Lier
Season 1983-84-
Team Milwaukee Bucks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald 46 22.6 7.4 0.3 1.3 1.7 3.5 0.7 0.0 1.7 1.7 3.0 6.1 .487 0.1 0.4 .222 1.4 2.2 .634
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Tiny Archibald ------- --- ----------
Norm Van Lier ------- --- ----------