Vince Carter vs. Joe Kleine Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Joe Kleine and Vince Carter, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season / Games against each other

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Vince Carter played 22 years in the NBA, 7 more than Joe Kleine, who played 15. Vince Carter had the first of his seasons in 1998-99, while Joe Kleine had his rookie season in 1985-86. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Vince Carter 22 11 1998-99 to 2019-20
Joe Kleine 15 10 1985-86 to 1999-00

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 1998-991985-86
Team Toronto RaptorsSacramento Kings
Honors & Awards Achievement Rookie of the Year-
Achievement All-Rookie First Team-
Playoffs Did Not PlayKings Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 50 35.2 18.3 1.9 3.8 5.7 3.0 1.1 1.5 2.2 2.8 6.9 15.3 .450 0.4 1.3 .288 4.1 5.4 .761
Joe Kleine 80 14.8 5.2 1.4 3.3 4.7 0.6 0.3 0.4 1.3 2.8 2.0 4.3 .465 0.0 0.0 - 1.2 1.6 .723
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine 3 15.0 5.0 2.7 2.0 4.7 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.7 2.7 1.7 4.3 .385 0.0 0.0 - 1.7 2.0 .833

Season 2

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 1999-001986-87
Team Toronto RaptorsSacramento Kings
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Raptors Lost East Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 82 38.1 25.7 1.8 4.0 5.8 3.9 1.3 1.1 2.2 3.2 9.6 20.7 .465 1.2 2.9 .403 5.3 6.7 .791
Joe Kleine 79 21.0 7.9 2.2 3.9 6.1 0.9 0.4 0.4 1.1 2.7 3.2 6.9 .471 0.0 0.0 .000 1.4 1.8 .786
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 3 39.7 19.3 3.0 3.0 6.0 6.3 1.0 1.3 2.7 4.0 5.0 16.7 .300 0.3 3.3 .100 9.0 10.3 .871
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 3

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2000-011987-88
Team Toronto RaptorsSacramento Kings
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Raptors Lost East Conf SemisDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 75 39.7 27.6 2.3 3.2 5.5 3.9 1.5 1.1 2.2 2.7 10.2 22.1 .460 2.2 5.3 .408 5.1 6.7 .765
Joe Kleine 82 24.4 9.8 2.2 4.9 7.1 1.1 0.3 0.7 1.3 2.8 4.0 8.4 .472 0.0 0.0 - 1.9 2.3 .814
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 12 45.1 27.3 3.1 3.4 6.5 4.7 1.7 1.7 2.3 3.8 10.2 23.3 .436 2.1 5.1 .410 4.8 6.2 .784
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 4

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2001-021988-89
Team Toronto RaptorsSacramento Kings, Boston Celtics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayCeltics Lost East Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 39.8 24.7 2.3 2.9 5.2 4.0 1.6 0.7 2.6 3.2 9.3 21.8 .428 2.0 5.2 .387 4.1 5.1 .798
Joe Kleine 75 18.8 6.5 1.7 3.4 5.0 0.9 0.4 0.3 1.4 2.6 2.3 5.8 .405 0.0 0.0 .000 1.8 2.0 .882
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine 3 21.7 6.3 1.3 4.3 5.7 0.7 0.0 0.3 2.0 3.0 2.0 3.7 .545 0.0 0.3 .000 2.3 3.0 .778

Season 5

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2002-031989-90
Team Toronto RaptorsBoston Celtics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayCeltics Lost East Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 43 34.2 20.6 1.4 3.0 4.4 3.3 1.1 1.0 1.7 2.8 8.3 17.7 .467 1.0 3.0 .344 3.0 3.7 .806
Joe Kleine 81 16.9 5.4 1.4 2.9 4.4 0.6 0.2 0.3 0.8 2.1 2.2 4.5 .480 0.0 0.0 .000 1.0 1.2 .830
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine 5 15.8 6.2 0.6 2.2 2.8 0.4 0.4 0.6 0.8 2.4 2.6 3.4 .765 0.0 0.2 .000 1.0 1.2 .833

Season 6

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2003-041990-91
Team Toronto RaptorsBoston Celtics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayCeltics Lost East Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 38.2 22.5 1.3 3.5 4.8 4.8 1.2 0.9 3.1 2.9 8.3 20.0 .417 1.3 3.3 .383 4.6 5.7 .806
Joe Kleine 72 11.8 3.6 1.0 2.4 3.4 0.3 0.2 0.2 0.7 1.5 1.4 3.0 .468 0.0 0.0 .000 0.8 1.0 .783
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine 5 6.2 1.6 1.0 1.2 2.2 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.4 1.4 0.8 1.8 .444 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -

Season 7

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2004-051991-92
Team Toronto Raptors, New Jersey NetsBoston Celtics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf 1st RdCeltics Lost East Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 77 36.7 24.5 1.4 3.8 5.2 4.2 1.4 0.6 2.2 3.2 9.0 20.0 .452 1.6 4.1 .406 4.8 6.0 .798
Joe Kleine 70 14.2 4.7 1.3 2.9 4.2 0.5 0.3 0.2 0.4 1.4 2.1 4.2 .491 0.1 0.1 .500 0.5 0.7 .708
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 45.3 26.8 2.3 6.3 8.5 5.8 2.3 0.0 3.8 4.3 8.8 24.0 .365 1.5 4.8 .316 7.8 9.0 .861
Joe Kleine 9 9.1 2.2 0.7 1.8 2.4 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.2 1.0 2.4 .409 0.0 0.1 .000 0.2 0.2 1.000

Season 8

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2005-061992-93
Team New Jersey NetsBoston Celtics
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf SemisCeltics Lost East Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 79 36.8 24.2 1.7 4.1 5.8 4.3 1.2 0.7 2.7 3.0 8.3 19.2 .430 1.6 4.6 .341 6.1 7.6 .799
Joe Kleine 78 14.5 3.3 1.4 3.0 4.4 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.5 1.6 1.4 3.4 .404 0.0 0.1 .000 0.5 0.7 .707
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 11 40.9 29.6 1.5 5.5 7.0 5.3 1.8 0.5 2.4 3.1 10.3 22.2 .463 1.3 5.3 .241 7.8 9.8 .796
Joe Kleine 4 7.3 1.5 0.0 1.3 1.3 0.0 0.0 0.3 0.0 1.0 0.8 1.3 .600 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -

Season 9

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2006-071993-94
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf SemisSuns Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 82 38.1 25.2 1.4 4.6 6.0 4.8 1.0 0.4 2.6 3.2 8.9 19.5 .454 1.9 5.3 .357 5.6 7.0 .802
Joe Kleine 74 11.5 3.9 0.7 1.9 2.6 0.6 0.2 0.3 0.5 1.6 1.7 3.5 .488 0.1 0.1 .455 0.4 0.5 .769
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 12 40.6 22.3 1.4 5.4 6.8 5.3 0.9 0.6 3.2 2.9 7.8 19.6 .396 1.8 4.5 .389 5.1 7.3 .693
Joe Kleine 8 10.1 3.5 0.6 1.5 2.1 0.4 0.1 0.5 0.3 1.9 1.5 3.5 .429 0.0 0.0 - 0.5 0.8 .667

Season 10

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2007-081994-95
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlaySuns Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 76 38.9 21.3 1.5 4.5 6.0 5.1 1.2 0.4 2.4 3.2 7.7 16.9 .456 1.3 3.6 .359 4.6 5.6 .816
Joe Kleine 75 12.9 3.7 1.1 2.4 3.5 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.5 2.3 1.6 3.5 .449 0.0 0.0 .000 0.6 0.7 .857
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine 10 16.7 6.3 0.8 2.3 3.1 0.8 0.5 0.3 0.6 3.5 3.1 5.4 .574 0.1 0.2 .500 0.0 0.0 -

Season 11

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2008-091995-96
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlaySuns Lost West Conf 1st Rd
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 80 36.8 20.8 0.9 4.2 5.1 4.7 1.0 0.5 2.1 2.9 7.4 16.8 .437 1.9 4.9 .385 4.2 5.1 .817
Joe Kleine 56 11.8 2.9 0.6 1.7 2.4 0.8 0.2 0.1 0.7 2.0 1.3 3.0 .420 0.0 0.1 .286 0.4 0.4 .800
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine 2 4.0 0.0 0.5 0.0 0.5 0.0 0.5 0.0 0.5 0.5 0.0 1.0 .000 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -

Season 12

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2009-101996-97
Team Orlando MagicPhoenix Suns, Los Angeles Lakers, New Jersey Nets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Magic Lost East Conf FinalsDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 75 30.8 16.6 0.4 3.5 3.9 3.1 0.7 0.2 1.4 2.5 5.8 13.5 .428 1.6 4.3 .367 3.4 4.1 .840
Joe Kleine 59 14.4 2.8 1.1 2.4 3.4 0.6 0.3 0.3 0.7 1.9 1.2 2.9 .406 0.0 0.1 .667 0.5 0.6 .737
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 14 34.3 15.5 0.6 3.6 4.2 2.3 0.9 0.2 1.6 3.6 5.3 13.1 .402 0.9 3.6 .235 4.1 4.9 .826
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 13

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2010-111997-98
Team Orlando Magic, Phoenix SunsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayNBA Champion NBA Champion
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 28.1 14.0 0.7 3.0 3.8 2.0 0.9 0.3 1.2 2.6 5.3 12.2 .437 1.6 4.4 .361 1.8 2.4 .740
Joe Kleine 46 8.6 2.0 0.6 1.1 1.7 0.7 0.1 0.1 0.6 1.4 0.8 2.3 .368 0.0 0.0 - 0.3 0.4 .833
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 14

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2011-121998-99
Team Dallas MavericksPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st RdSuns Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 61 25.3 10.1 0.5 2.8 3.4 2.3 0.9 0.4 1.4 2.2 3.7 8.9 .411 1.2 3.4 .361 1.6 1.9 .826
Joe Kleine 31 12.1 2.2 0.9 1.3 2.2 0.4 0.3 0.0 0.3 1.5 1.0 2.4 .405 0.0 0.1 .000 0.3 0.4 .667
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 26.8 8.3 1.3 4.3 5.5 0.3 1.3 0.5 1.5 2.8 3.0 10.3 .293 0.8 2.5 .300 1.5 2.0 .750
Joe Kleine 1 5.0 2.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 1.0 2.0 .500 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -

Season 15

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2012-131999-00
Team Dallas MavericksPortland Trail Blazers
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 81 25.8 13.4 0.7 3.4 4.1 2.4 0.9 0.5 1.3 2.8 4.6 10.6 .435 2.0 4.9 .406 2.2 2.8 .816
Joe Kleine 7 4.4 1.6 0.0 0.9 0.9 0.3 0.1 0.0 0.3 1.0 0.6 1.6 .364 0.0 0.0 - 0.4 0.4 1.000
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 16

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2013-14-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 81 24.4 11.9 0.8 2.7 3.5 2.6 0.8 0.4 1.3 2.6 4.1 10.0 .407 1.8 4.6 .394 2.0 2.4 .821
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 7 27.1 12.6 1.0 2.6 3.6 2.4 0.4 0.3 0.9 1.7 4.4 9.7 .456 2.1 4.4 .484 1.6 2.0 .786
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 17

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2014-15-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf Semis-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 66 16.5 5.8 0.4 1.6 2.0 1.2 0.7 0.2 0.7 1.5 2.0 6.2 .333 1.0 3.5 .297 0.7 0.9 .789
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 11 17.8 6.3 1.2 3.1 4.3 1.0 0.6 0.2 0.6 1.5 2.5 6.1 .403 0.6 2.5 .250 0.7 0.8 .889
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 18

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2015-16-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 16.8 6.6 0.5 1.9 2.4 0.9 0.6 0.3 0.6 1.7 2.2 5.7 .388 1.0 2.8 .349 1.2 1.4 .833
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 22.8 11.3 1.3 2.5 3.8 1.3 0.5 0.3 0.8 2.3 3.8 8.3 .455 1.8 2.5 .700 2.0 2.0 1.000
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 19

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2016-17-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 24.6 8.0 0.5 2.6 3.1 1.8 0.8 0.5 0.7 2.2 2.6 6.7 .394 1.5 4.1 .378 1.2 1.6 .765
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 6 32.5 9.2 0.7 2.7 3.3 1.5 0.3 0.0 1.7 2.5 3.3 7.0 .476 1.3 3.3 .400 1.2 1.2 1.000
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 20

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2017-18-
Team Sacramento Kings-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 58 17.7 5.4 0.3 2.2 2.6 1.2 0.7 0.4 0.6 1.7 2.0 4.9 .403 1.0 2.8 .345 0.5 0.6 .757
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 21

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2018-19-
Team Atlanta Hawks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 76 17.5 7.4 0.4 2.1 2.6 1.1 0.6 0.4 0.6 1.9 2.6 6.2 .419 1.6 4.2 .389 0.6 0.9 .712
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------

Season 22

Vince Carter Joe Kleine
Season 2019-20-
Team Atlanta Hawks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 14.6 5.0 0.3 1.8 2.1 0.8 0.4 0.4 0.6 1.5 1.8 5.1 .352 1.0 3.4 .302 0.4 0.5 .793
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Joe Kleine ------- --- ----------