Vince Carter vs. Mark West Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Mark West and Vince Carter, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season / Games against each other

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Vince Carter played 22 years in the NBA, 5 more than Mark West, who played 17. Vince Carter had the first of his seasons in 1998-99, while Mark West had his rookie season in 1983-84. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Vince Carter 22 11 1998-99 to 2019-20
Mark West 17 11 1983-84 to 1999-00

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 1998-991983-84
Team Toronto RaptorsDallas Mavericks
Honors & Awards Achievement Rookie of the Year-
Achievement All-Rookie First Team-
Playoffs Did Not PlayMavericks Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 50 35.2 18.3 1.9 3.8 5.7 3.0 1.1 1.5 2.2 2.8 6.9 15.3 .450 0.4 1.3 .288 4.1 5.4 .761
Mark West 34 5.9 1.1 0.6 0.8 1.4 0.4 0.0 0.4 0.4 1.6 0.4 1.2 .357 0.0 0.0 - 0.2 0.6 .318
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West 4 8.0 3.0 0.0 1.8 1.8 0.8 0.0 0.8 0.8 2.8 1.3 2.3 .556 0.0 0.0 - 0.5 0.8 .667

Season 2

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 1999-001984-85
Team Toronto RaptorsMilwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Raptors Lost East Conf 1st RdCavaliers Lost East Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 82 38.1 25.7 1.8 4.0 5.8 3.9 1.3 1.1 2.2 3.2 9.6 20.7 .465 1.2 2.9 .403 5.3 6.7 .791
Mark West 66 13.5 3.9 1.4 2.4 3.8 0.2 0.2 0.7 0.9 3.0 1.6 2.9 .546 0.0 0.0 .000 0.7 1.3 .494
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 3 39.7 19.3 3.0 3.0 6.0 6.3 1.0 1.3 2.7 4.0 5.0 16.7 .300 0.3 3.3 .100 9.0 10.3 .871
Mark West 4 17.0 2.0 1.3 3.3 4.5 1.0 0.5 0.0 1.3 4.8 0.8 1.3 .600 0.0 0.0 - 0.5 1.3 .400

Season 3

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2000-011985-86
Team Toronto RaptorsCleveland Cavaliers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Raptors Lost East Conf SemisDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 75 39.7 27.6 2.3 3.2 5.5 3.9 1.5 1.1 2.2 2.7 10.2 22.1 .460 2.2 5.3 .408 5.1 6.7 .765
Mark West 67 17.5 4.2 1.4 3.4 4.8 0.3 0.4 0.9 1.4 3.5 1.7 3.1 .541 0.0 0.0 - 0.8 1.5 .524
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 12 45.1 27.3 3.1 3.4 6.5 4.7 1.7 1.7 2.3 3.8 10.2 23.3 .436 2.1 5.1 .410 4.8 6.2 .784
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 4

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2001-021986-87
Team Toronto RaptorsCleveland Cavaliers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 39.8 24.7 2.3 2.9 5.2 4.0 1.6 0.7 2.6 3.2 9.3 21.8 .428 2.0 5.2 .387 4.1 5.1 .798
Mark West 78 17.1 6.5 1.6 2.7 4.3 0.5 0.3 1.0 1.4 2.9 2.7 4.9 .543 0.0 0.0 .000 1.1 2.2 .514
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 5

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2002-031987-88
Team Toronto RaptorsCleveland Cavaliers, Phoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 43 34.2 20.6 1.4 3.0 4.4 3.3 1.1 1.0 1.7 2.8 8.3 17.7 .467 1.0 3.0 .344 3.0 3.7 .806
Mark West 83 25.3 9.7 2.0 4.3 6.3 0.9 0.6 1.8 2.1 3.2 3.8 6.9 .551 0.0 0.0 .000 2.0 3.4 .596
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 6

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2003-041988-89
Team Toronto RaptorsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlaySuns Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 38.2 22.5 1.3 3.5 4.8 4.8 1.2 0.9 3.1 2.9 8.3 20.0 .417 1.3 3.3 .383 4.6 5.7 .806
Mark West 82 24.6 7.2 2.0 4.7 6.7 0.5 0.4 2.3 1.3 3.3 3.0 4.5 .653 0.0 0.0 - 1.3 2.5 .535
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West 12 18.9 6.2 1.8 2.7 4.4 0.5 0.6 1.6 1.1 3.0 2.7 4.2 .640 0.0 0.0 - 0.8 1.2 .714

Season 7

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2004-051989-90
Team Toronto Raptors, New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf 1st RdSuns Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 77 36.7 24.5 1.4 3.8 5.2 4.2 1.4 0.6 2.2 3.2 9.0 20.0 .452 1.6 4.1 .406 4.8 6.0 .798
Mark West 82 29.3 10.5 2.6 6.3 8.9 0.5 0.4 2.2 1.5 3.4 4.0 6.5 .625 0.0 0.0 - 2.4 3.5 .691
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 45.3 26.8 2.3 6.3 8.5 5.8 2.3 0.0 3.8 4.3 8.8 24.0 .365 1.5 4.8 .316 7.8 9.0 .861
Mark West 16 34.0 11.1 3.3 6.9 10.3 0.3 0.3 2.6 1.6 4.6 4.7 8.1 .577 0.0 0.0 - 1.7 3.1 .540

Season 8

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2005-061990-91
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf SemisSuns Lost West Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 79 36.8 24.2 1.7 4.1 5.8 4.3 1.2 0.7 2.7 3.0 8.3 19.2 .430 1.6 4.6 .341 6.1 7.6 .799
Mark West 82 23.9 7.7 2.1 4.8 6.9 0.5 0.4 2.0 1.0 3.2 3.0 4.7 .647 0.0 0.0 - 1.6 2.5 .655
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 11 40.9 29.6 1.5 5.5 7.0 5.3 1.8 0.5 2.4 3.1 10.3 22.2 .463 1.3 5.3 .241 7.8 9.8 .796
Mark West 4 23.3 5.8 2.0 2.5 4.5 0.5 0.5 2.5 0.8 3.8 2.3 3.8 .600 0.0 0.0 - 1.3 1.8 .714

Season 9

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2006-071991-92
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf SemisSuns Lost West Conf Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 82 38.1 25.2 1.4 4.6 6.0 4.8 1.0 0.4 2.6 3.2 8.9 19.5 .454 1.9 5.3 .357 5.6 7.0 .802
Mark West 82 17.5 6.1 1.6 2.9 4.5 0.3 0.2 1.0 1.0 2.9 2.4 3.8 .632 0.0 0.0 - 1.3 2.1 .637
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 12 40.6 22.3 1.4 5.4 6.8 5.3 0.9 0.6 3.2 2.9 7.8 19.6 .396 1.8 4.5 .389 5.1 7.3 .693
Mark West 8 12.0 4.0 1.0 1.1 2.1 0.3 0.3 0.5 0.3 2.6 1.8 2.4 .737 0.0 0.0 - 0.5 1.0 .500

Season 10

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2007-081992-93
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlaySuns Lost NBA Finals
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 76 38.9 21.3 1.5 4.5 6.0 5.1 1.2 0.4 2.4 3.2 7.7 16.9 .456 1.3 3.6 .359 4.6 5.6 .816
Mark West 82 19.0 5.3 1.9 3.7 5.6 0.4 0.2 1.3 1.1 3.0 2.1 3.5 .614 0.0 0.0 - 1.0 2.0 .518
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West 24 19.5 4.8 1.5 2.6 4.1 0.5 0.2 1.4 0.7 2.9 1.8 3.3 .544 0.0 0.0 - 1.2 1.9 .609

Season 11

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2008-091993-94
Team New Jersey NetsPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlaySuns Lost West Conf Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 80 36.8 20.8 0.9 4.2 5.1 4.7 1.0 0.5 2.1 2.9 7.4 16.8 .437 1.9 4.9 .385 4.2 5.1 .817
Mark West 82 15.1 4.7 1.4 2.2 3.6 0.4 0.4 1.3 0.9 2.6 2.0 3.5 .566 0.0 0.0 - 0.7 1.4 .500
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West 7 9.9 2.4 1.6 1.3 2.9 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.6 2.7 0.7 2.1 .333 0.0 0.0 - 1.0 1.4 .700

Season 12

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2009-101994-95
Team Orlando MagicDetroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Magic Lost East Conf FinalsDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 75 30.8 16.6 0.4 3.5 3.9 3.1 0.7 0.2 1.4 2.5 5.8 13.5 .428 1.6 4.3 .367 3.4 4.1 .840
Mark West 67 23.0 7.5 2.4 3.7 6.1 0.3 0.4 1.5 1.3 3.7 3.2 5.8 .556 0.0 0.0 - 1.0 2.1 .478
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 14 34.3 15.5 0.6 3.6 4.2 2.3 0.9 0.2 1.6 3.6 5.3 13.1 .402 0.9 3.6 .235 4.1 4.9 .826
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 13

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2010-111995-96
Team Orlando Magic, Phoenix SunsDetroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayPistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 28.1 14.0 0.7 3.0 3.8 2.0 0.9 0.3 1.2 2.6 5.3 12.2 .437 1.6 4.4 .361 1.8 2.4 .740
Mark West 47 14.5 3.2 1.0 1.8 2.8 0.1 0.1 0.8 0.7 2.9 1.3 2.7 .484 0.0 0.0 - 0.6 1.0 .622
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West 3 26.0 9.3 2.0 3.3 5.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.7 4.0 3.7 7.0 .524 0.0 0.0 - 2.0 4.3 .462

Season 14

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2011-121996-97
Team Dallas MavericksCleveland Cavaliers
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 61 25.3 10.1 0.5 2.8 3.4 2.3 0.9 0.4 1.4 2.2 3.7 8.9 .411 1.2 3.4 .361 1.6 1.9 .826
Mark West 70 13.7 3.2 1.0 1.7 2.7 0.3 0.2 0.8 0.7 2.0 1.4 2.6 .556 0.0 0.0 - 0.4 0.8 .482
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 26.8 8.3 1.3 4.3 5.5 0.3 1.3 0.5 1.5 2.8 3.0 10.3 .293 0.8 2.5 .300 1.5 2.0 .750
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 15

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2012-131997-98
Team Dallas MavericksIndiana Pacers
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayPacers Lost East Conf Finals
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 81 25.8 13.4 0.7 3.4 4.1 2.4 0.9 0.5 1.3 2.8 4.6 10.6 .435 2.0 4.9 .406 2.2 2.8 .816
Mark West 15 7.0 1.5 0.4 0.6 1.0 0.1 0.1 0.3 0.5 1.0 0.7 1.4 .476 0.0 0.0 - 0.2 0.4 .500
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West 4 2.8 0.8 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.3 0.5 .500 0.0 0.0 - 0.3 0.8 .333

Season 16

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2013-141998-99
Team Dallas MavericksAtlanta Hawks
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st RdHawks Lost East Conf Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 81 24.4 11.9 0.8 2.7 3.5 2.6 0.8 0.4 1.3 2.6 4.1 10.0 .407 1.8 4.6 .394 2.0 2.4 .821
Mark West 49 10.2 1.2 1.0 1.6 2.6 0.3 0.1 0.4 0.3 1.7 0.4 1.2 .373 0.0 0.0 - 0.3 0.9 .356
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 7 27.1 12.6 1.0 2.6 3.6 2.4 0.4 0.3 0.9 1.7 4.4 9.7 .456 2.1 4.4 .484 1.6 2.0 .786
Mark West 9 7.6 0.9 0.3 0.7 1.0 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.7 1.6 0.3 1.1 .300 0.0 0.0 - 0.2 0.4 .500

Season 17

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2014-151999-00
Team Memphis GrizzliesPhoenix Suns
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf SemisDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 66 16.5 5.8 0.4 1.6 2.0 1.2 0.7 0.2 0.7 1.5 2.0 6.2 .333 1.0 3.5 .297 0.7 0.9 .789
Mark West 22 5.8 0.7 0.3 1.1 1.4 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.3 1.0 0.2 0.5 .417 0.0 0.0 - 0.2 0.4 .625
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 11 17.8 6.3 1.2 3.1 4.3 1.0 0.6 0.2 0.6 1.5 2.5 6.1 .403 0.6 2.5 .250 0.7 0.8 .889
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 18

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2015-16-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 16.8 6.6 0.5 1.9 2.4 0.9 0.6 0.3 0.6 1.7 2.2 5.7 .388 1.0 2.8 .349 1.2 1.4 .833
Mark West ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 22.8 11.3 1.3 2.5 3.8 1.3 0.5 0.3 0.8 2.3 3.8 8.3 .455 1.8 2.5 .700 2.0 2.0 1.000
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 19

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2016-17-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 24.6 8.0 0.5 2.6 3.1 1.8 0.8 0.5 0.7 2.2 2.6 6.7 .394 1.5 4.1 .378 1.2 1.6 .765
Mark West ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 6 32.5 9.2 0.7 2.7 3.3 1.5 0.3 0.0 1.7 2.5 3.3 7.0 .476 1.3 3.3 .400 1.2 1.2 1.000
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 20

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2017-18-
Team Sacramento Kings-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 58 17.7 5.4 0.3 2.2 2.6 1.2 0.7 0.4 0.6 1.7 2.0 4.9 .403 1.0 2.8 .345 0.5 0.6 .757
Mark West ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 21

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2018-19-
Team Atlanta Hawks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 76 17.5 7.4 0.4 2.1 2.6 1.1 0.6 0.4 0.6 1.9 2.6 6.2 .419 1.6 4.2 .389 0.6 0.9 .712
Mark West ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West ------- --- ----------

Season 22

Vince Carter Mark West
Season 2019-20-
Team Atlanta Hawks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 14.6 5.0 0.3 1.8 2.1 0.8 0.4 0.4 0.6 1.5 1.8 5.1 .352 1.0 3.4 .302 0.4 0.5 .793
Mark West ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Mark West ------- --- ----------